<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><font face="Calibri">Dear all,</font></div><div><font face="Calibri"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri">Below you will find the summary of last week’s call. </font></div><div><font face="Calibri"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri">Attached you will find <b>updated versions</b> of the responses submitted to-date.</font></div><div><font face="Calibri"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri">Please note that our next call is on</font></div><div><font face="Calibri"><b>Monday</b><b> 30 November 2015 at 2100 UTC.</b></font></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"><o:p></o:p></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">13:00 PDT, 16:00 EDT, 21:00 London, 22:00 CET, 05:00 Beijing, 08:00 Sydney<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri"><o:p></o:p></font></p></div><div><p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><font face="Calibri">for other places see: <b><a href="http://tinyurl.com/pnb2o4x" style="color: purple;">http://tinyurl.com/pnb2o4x</a></b></font></p></div><div><font face="Calibri"><br></font></div><div><font face="Calibri">Best. Lars</font></div><div><font face="Calibri"><br></font></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></div><div style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Bart Boswinkel <<a href="mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org">bart.boswinkel@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday, 19 November 2015 at 02:49<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Lars HOFFMANN <<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Notes CWG CTN meeting<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
Lars, Included notes from last Mondays call, please check if okay suggest you send them to the list</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
Kind regards,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">
Bart</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>CWG Country and Territory Names, Monday 16 November 2015, 21:00 UTC</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>AGENDA</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>1. Welcome</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>Apologies: </b></span></p><ul style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Annebeth Lange</span></span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Jaap Akkerhuis</span></span></li><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Laura Hutchinson</span></span></li></ul><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>2. Re-cap of Dublin and reminder of work plan until Marrakech</b></span></p><ul style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><li><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Circulation of survey questions</span></span></li></ul><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">First time out send late August</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Reminders send. Last group was approached after the Dublin meeting. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">In person and generic reminders</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">During Dublin and since, 5 comments received, from various communities</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Goal is to have internal views and circulate prior to Marrakesh</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Co-chair proposal:</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Send out as prelimanry report also</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"> include section around methodology.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Comment: bundling together work on two and three letter codes, and then seek feed-back.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Recognition major issue is country names, but before handling it send out prelimenary report to show methodology</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>3. Letter from Thomas Schneider, GAC Chair</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Background; ccNSO and GNSO chairs informed about concern of potetial overlap between work Geographic names and CTN WG. Positive:</span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Issue identified, awareness
has been raised </span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Interpretation of letter response: Mandate of CTN is ISO 3166 list. GAC WG will focus on other Geographic names. </span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><font face="Arial" size="3">Limited to ISO 3166. does that include names of countries? N</font><font face="Arial" size="3">ames in different languages? </font></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Interpretation: </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Includes names as on ISO list </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Paul S: Does not read it as limiting or intentionally. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Work deriving from ISO 3166</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Suggests to park the issue until such time it hits that point ( around Marrakesh meeting), after dealing with 3 letter codes.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather F. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Concern: There are two groups on geographic names -> may result in different definitions. Deal with concern going forward. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Clarity needed for future applicants.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Other Questions?</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Cheryl: GAC's own work will proceed at its own pace. At th etime the work of GAC moves forward CTN will be able to negotiate mutually agreed terminology. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">It is early days of the GAC group.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Paul S: Potential risk recognised by both CTN and GAC and hence potential to mitigate, as result of letter. </span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>4. Confirm and Discuss input received on 3-character codes</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Heather: </span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Comments received to date . ( 5 ), including from </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">two law-firms</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">ccTLD submissions to follow. </span><font face="Arial" size="3">Question: Does </font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 15px;">response</span></font><font face="Arial" size="3"> need to be official?
Official letter not needed, Seeeking input at this time.</font></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Time to digest the input received</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>5. Next steps in tabulating community input received to-date</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Lesson learned: Strategy on how to seek response: create a kind format. Challanges on input</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Next step; How to deal with comments, taking into account variety of format. How to deal woth it</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Carlos: Background paper and two-letter paper.</span></p><p align="LEFT"><font face="Arial" size="3">In seeking public comment and working move forward on </font><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 15px;">straw man</span></font><font face="Arial" size="3">.</font></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Use methodology of two-letter code</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Lars suggestion: </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Possibility creating sub-groups, staff could make a summary, </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Check by group. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Bring in comments as much as possible.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Carlos: Include comments in paper. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Include as annexes/ Appendices. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Need to maintain original source</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">By and large responses with rationale. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Create overview and cluster reasoning.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">CTN members to look at comments recevied and then discussion on how to include them.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Discuss formal methodology at that time, and document it.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Cheryl: Community expectation some form of archive how CTN has dealt with comment.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Template approach used by CWG and CCWG</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Recommend on how to use column approach. </span><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;">Bring out rationale</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Tackle at next meeting?</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">Create a sub-group ( self-identified) supported by staff to work on digesting the comment.</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><br></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>6. AOB and next meeting</b></span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">No comments</span></p><p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri; font-size: 14px;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></p></div></div></div></span></body></html>