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<p align="LEFT"><font face="Calibri">Please find below the <b>notes</b> taken during the&nbsp;meeting of the
<b><i>CWG on the&nbsp;Use&nbsp;of&nbsp;Country&nbsp;and&nbsp;Territory&nbsp;Names&nbsp;as&nbsp;top-level&nbsp;domains</i></b>, on&nbsp;Monday 23 May at 21 UTC.</font></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><font face="Calibri">Welcome</font></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">Preparation&nbsp;for&nbsp;community&nbsp;meetings&nbsp;in&nbsp;Helsinki</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">Any&nbsp;other&nbsp;business</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;">Next&nbsp;meeting</span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>1.&nbsp;Welcome</b></span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Meeting&nbsp;chaired&nbsp;by&nbsp;Carlos. &nbsp;We are in the process of f</font><font face="Calibri">inishing the arrangements of the F2F in Helsinki. Today we are concentrating&nbsp;on&nbsp;those&nbsp;preparations.</font><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>2.&nbsp;Preparation&nbsp;for&nbsp;community&nbsp;meetings&nbsp;in&nbsp;Helsinki</b></span></p>
<p align="LEFT"><font face="Calibri" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Bart&nbsp;prepared an overview/mindmap for the Wednesday&nbsp;afternoon&nbsp;session, taking place between 15:15&nbsp;-&nbsp;16:45 local time. &nbsp;Still pending: a potential
</font><font face="Calibri">meeting between the co-chairs of&nbsp;this WG and&nbsp;the&nbsp;GAC&nbsp;WG.&nbsp;Could&nbsp;be&nbsp;potentially&nbsp;on&nbsp;Tuesday,&nbsp;right&nbsp;after&nbsp;lunch.</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">As for the Wednesday&nbsp;afternoon cross-community session, we will discuss today the following aspects:</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">-&nbsp;GOAL&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;session</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">-&nbsp;potential&nbsp;TOPICS</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">-&nbsp;FORMAT</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">-&nbsp;ORGANISATION</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><b><i><u><font face="Arial" style="font-size: 15px;">GOAL:</font></u></i></b></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Based&nbsp;on&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;in the last&nbsp;call&nbsp;and after consulting with the&nbsp;co-chairs, the goal is&nbsp;to&nbsp;present&nbsp;an&nbsp;overview&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;geo&nbsp;name&nbsp;initiative&nbsp;in&nbsp;general.&nbsp;&nbsp;What&nbsp;is&nbsp;it&nbsp;trying&nbsp;to&nbsp;achieve&nbsp;for the broader&nbsp;community?&nbsp;Explore&nbsp;the&nbsp;feasibility&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;harmonsied&nbsp;approach.&nbsp;&nbsp;What&nbsp;is&nbsp;such&nbsp;a&nbsp;harmonised&nbsp;approach,
 who&nbsp;are&nbsp;the&nbsp;interested&nbsp;parties,&nbsp;and&nbsp;why&nbsp;is&nbsp;it&nbsp;needed?</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Heather added that we indeed need to make a note&nbsp;of&nbsp;other&nbsp;potentially&nbsp;overlapping&nbsp;activities&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;ICANN&nbsp;environment.</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Alexander&nbsp;S.&nbsp;invites&nbsp;for&nbsp;an&nbsp;RFP&nbsp;:&nbsp;what&nbsp;string&nbsp;do&nbsp;other&nbsp;applicants&nbsp;want&nbsp;to&nbsp;apply&nbsp;for&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;next&nbsp;new&nbsp;gTLD&nbsp;round?&nbsp;&nbsp;In&nbsp;certain&nbsp;niches&nbsp;(e.g.&nbsp;community&nbsp;TLDs),&nbsp;the&nbsp;application&nbsp;rules&nbsp;resulted&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;not&nbsp;feasible.&nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Bart
 Boswinkel confirmed that the&nbsp;aim&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;come&nbsp;up&nbsp;with&nbsp;a&nbsp;harmonised&nbsp;work.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Carlos:&nbsp;one&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;biggest&nbsp;challenges&nbsp;is&nbsp;to&nbsp;keep&nbsp;our&nbsp;discussion&nbsp;connected&nbsp;with&nbsp;other&nbsp;initiatives.&nbsp;&nbsp;Have&nbsp;discussions&nbsp;with&nbsp;other&nbsp;processes.&nbsp;PDP&nbsp;on&nbsp;subsequent&nbsp;rounds&nbsp;takess&nbsp;note&nbsp;of&nbsp;all&nbsp;the&nbsp;questions&nbsp;asked&nbsp;here.
 &nbsp; In the new gTLD round, there is the i</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">ssue&nbsp;of&nbsp;competition:&nbsp;looking&nbsp;at&nbsp;successful&nbsp;and&nbsp;failed&nbsp;applications</span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Limited&nbsp;work&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;group:&nbsp;2-char&nbsp;and&nbsp;3-char.</font></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b><i><u>TOPICS:</u></i></b></span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Should&nbsp;somehow&nbsp;come&nbsp;back&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;format. &nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">provide&nbsp;a&nbsp;general&nbsp;lay&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;land.&nbsp;What&nbsp;does&nbsp;it&nbsp;mean,&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;fragmented&nbsp;approach,&nbsp;or&nbsp;a&nbsp;harmonised&nbsp;approach?
 &nbsp; Include the c</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">oncerns&nbsp;raised&nbsp;by&nbsp;SSAC. &nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Geo&nbsp;vs&nbsp;country&nbsp;&amp;&nbsp;territory&nbsp;names.</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Probably&nbsp;interesting&nbsp;for&nbsp;GAC,&nbsp;new&nbsp;gTLDS.&nbsp;ccTLDS&nbsp;who&nbsp;have&nbsp;deep&nbsp;concern&nbsp;on&nbsp;use&nbsp;of&nbsp;country&nbsp;and&nbsp;territory&nbsp;names.
 &nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Core&nbsp;3-char&nbsp;code&nbsp;differences.</span></p>
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<p align="LEFT"><font face="Calibri">Heather:&nbsp;question&nbsp;regarding&nbsp;timing.&nbsp;Overlap with the GNSO&nbsp;RPM&nbsp;PDP&nbsp;WG. We&nbsp;might&nbsp;loose&nbsp;certain&nbsp;people&nbsp;towards&nbsp;the&nbsp;end&nbsp;of&nbsp;our&nbsp;session.</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">ccNSO&nbsp;scheduled&nbsp;this&nbsp;on&nbsp;wednesday&nbsp;afternoon. Originally, there were 2&nbsp;alternatives:&nbsp;Tuesday&nbsp;afternoon,&nbsp;or&nbsp;wednesday&nbsp;afternoon.&nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">ccNSO&nbsp;meets&nbsp;GAC&nbsp;on&nbsp;Tuesday&nbsp;from&nbsp;15:15&nbsp;until&nbsp;16:&nbsp;15&nbsp;followed&nbsp;by&nbsp;session&nbsp;on&nbsp;SOP.&nbsp;Only&nbsp;available&nbsp;slot&nbsp;was
 Wednesday&nbsp;afternoon.&nbsp;&nbsp;Knowing&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;parallel&nbsp;sessions,&nbsp;but&nbsp;from&nbsp;ccNSO&nbsp;perspective,&nbsp;this&nbsp;was&nbsp;the&nbsp;best&nbsp;alternative.</span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Carlos:&nbsp;we&nbsp;welcome&nbsp;good&nbsp;conversation&nbsp;between&nbsp;both&nbsp;organisations,&nbsp;ccNSO&nbsp;and&nbsp;GNSO.&nbsp;1,5h&nbsp;in&nbsp;this&nbsp;framework&nbsp;is&nbsp;much&nbsp;appreciated,&nbsp;even&nbsp;though&nbsp;there&nbsp;are&nbsp;conflicting&nbsp;sessions.&nbsp;</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">BB:&nbsp;meeting&nbsp;is&nbsp;not&nbsp;limited&nbsp;to&nbsp;ccNSO&nbsp;and&nbsp;GNSO.&nbsp;Others&nbsp;are&nbsp;invited&nbsp;to&nbsp;attend.&nbsp;Clear&nbsp;intention&nbsp;to&nbsp;have&nbsp;a&nbsp;true&nbsp;cross-community&nbsp;session,&nbsp;including&nbsp;the&nbsp;SSAC&nbsp;topic.</font></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Marika: suggestion to having&nbsp;this&nbsp;session&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;sub-topic&nbsp;on&nbsp;Tuesday&nbsp;afternoon.</font></p>
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<p align="LEFT"><font face="Calibri" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Jaap discussed the concern&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;SSAC: &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri;">Many&nbsp;people&nbsp;claim&nbsp;having&nbsp;a&nbsp;say&nbsp;in&nbsp;Top&nbsp;Level&nbsp;Domains. &nbsp;</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri;">e.g.&nbsp;dot&nbsp;onion.&nbsp;TLD&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;reserved,&nbsp;but&nbsp;not&nbsp;used&nbsp;for&nbsp;DNS&nbsp;protocol.</span><font face="Calibri">ISO3166&nbsp;list,&nbsp;IETF&nbsp;...&nbsp;&nbsp;None&nbsp;of&nbsp;these&nbsp;groups&nbsp;are&nbsp;talking&nbsp;to&nbsp;each
 other. Each group develops its own&nbsp;policies,&nbsp;according&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;caffetaria-model:&nbsp;you&nbsp;pick&nbsp;what&nbsp;you&nbsp;want. &nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">3-letter&nbsp;codes&nbsp;and&nbsp;geographic&nbsp;names&nbsp;are&nbsp;unrelated.&nbsp;SSAC&nbsp;is&nbsp;trying&nbsp;to&nbsp;come&nbsp;up&nbsp;with&nbsp;a&nbsp;study:&nbsp;wo&nbsp;does&nbsp;what. &nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">ISO3166&nbsp;does&nbsp;not&nbsp;even&nbsp;mention&nbsp;supernational&nbsp;areas&nbsp;such&nbsp;as
 (dot)&nbsp;amazon.</span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Feasibility&nbsp;of&nbsp;a&nbsp;harmonsied&nbsp;approach&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;broader&nbsp;context&nbsp;is&nbsp;being&nbsp;explored&nbsp;here.</font></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b><i><u>FORMAT</u></i></b></span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">practicalities.&nbsp;How&nbsp;do&nbsp;we&nbsp;bring&nbsp;the&nbsp;different&nbsp;topics&nbsp;forward&nbsp;and&nbsp;how&nbsp;to&nbsp;engage&nbsp;the&nbsp;audience? &nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Those&nbsp;who&nbsp;are&nbsp;interested,&nbsp;but&nbsp;not&nbsp;experts,&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;able&nbsp;to&nbsp;follow&nbsp;too.
 &nbsp;Suggestion to have&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Panel&nbsp;discussions, in speed&nbsp;panels.&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Discussions&nbsp;on&nbsp;1&nbsp;or&nbsp;3&nbsp;core&nbsp;issues,&nbsp;that&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;identified.&nbsp;&nbsp;Presenters&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;identified,&nbsp;and&nbsp;moderator&nbsp;too.</span></p>
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<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Brief&nbsp;discussion,&nbsp;and&nbsp;then&nbsp;engage&nbsp;community&nbsp;as&nbsp;much&nbsp;as&nbsp;possibly&nbsp;by&nbsp;asking&nbsp;specifiic&nbsp;questions,&nbsp;and&nbsp;then&nbsp;have&nbsp;the&nbsp;sense&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;temperature&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;room. &nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Thus&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;discuss&nbsp;different&nbsp;topics&nbsp;relatively&nbsp;quickly,&nbsp;and&nbsp;engage&nbsp;the&nbsp;community.</span></p>
<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">Heather raised again the issue that you risk to miss&nbsp;certain&nbsp;GNSO&nbsp;people&nbsp;due&nbsp;to&nbsp;a&nbsp;conflicting&nbsp;session. &nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Calibri;">BB:&nbsp;we&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;get&nbsp;back&nbsp;to&nbsp;WG.&nbsp;if&nbsp;it&nbsp;is&nbsp;embedded&nbsp;in&nbsp;another&nbsp;session,&nbsp;the&nbsp;ccTLDS&nbsp;may&nbsp;not&nbsp;be&nbsp;interested.&nbsp;Moreover,&nbsp;you&nbsp;only&nbsp;have&nbsp;10&nbsp;minutes&nbsp;time
 if you embed it on Tuesday,&nbsp;instead&nbsp;of the 90 minutes time the ccNSO can offer. &nbsp;Final schedule arrangements are due to ICANN no later than</span><span style="font-family: Calibri;">&nbsp;Wednesday.</span></p>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial;"><b><i><u>ORGANISATION:</u></i></b></span></p>
<p align="LEFT"><font face="Calibri">The cross-community&nbsp;forum&nbsp;on Wednesday&nbsp;afternoon,&nbsp;under&nbsp;auspices&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;ccNSO, is still open&nbsp;for&nbsp;discussion, due to schedule overlapping issues raised by the GNSO.&nbsp;&nbsp;Does&nbsp;the&nbsp;WG&nbsp;want&nbsp;to&nbsp;continue&nbsp;with&nbsp;this&nbsp;90&nbsp;min&nbsp;session&nbsp;on
 Wednesday&nbsp;afternoon&nbsp;under&nbsp;auspices&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;ccNSO,&nbsp;or&nbsp;go&nbsp;instead&nbsp;for&nbsp;an&nbsp;embedded&nbsp;10&nbsp;min&nbsp;session&nbsp;on&nbsp;Tuesday? &nbsp;An answer to this question needs to be provided no later than&nbsp;Wednesday, when&nbsp;schedule&nbsp;arrangements are due to ICANN.</font></p>
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<p align="LEFT" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font face="Calibri">-&nbsp;People&nbsp;on&nbsp;call&nbsp;need&nbsp;to&nbsp;agree&nbsp;on&nbsp;the&nbsp;format,&nbsp;</font></p>
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<span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial;"><b>3.&nbsp;Any&nbsp;other&nbsp;business</b></span></p>
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