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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Please find below notes and action items for this call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Emily<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">CWG on country and territory names as TLDs, Monday, 03 October 2016</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Welcome and Roll Call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Reading of progress report (latest version included)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Reserved names and 3-letter codes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Call for feed-back Interim Report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">AOB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Notes and Action Items<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Last call we were discussing preparation for Hyderabad. Two documents are pending for the meeting: Progress report and compilation of
2- and 3- letter codes reports. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: staff sent an updated version last Friday and waited for feedback. None has been received. Bart updated bullets at the bottom of page 3 on inconsistencies in the framework and updated
recommendations based on the discussions two weeks ago. Bart is unclear on bullet point number 4. It is Bart’s understanding that the existing reserved name restrictions operate as a general restriction, and not just for 3-letter codes on the ISO list. Do
we want to introduce the issue of conflicts/overlap in different lists in this bullet or rephrase?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: He believes is one issue where we may have we had different positions on our survey on 3-letter codes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: He found it odd the way it was framed in the current version of the report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Annebeth Lange: This bullet refers to special 3-letter codes that were reserved for special reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: The alpha-three codes could be of interest to local communities Joke has noted an overlap with the existing reserved names list item .NIC. NIC is on the existing reserved names list
(abbreviation for Network Information Center), but it also an assigned 3-letter code for Nicaragua. If the ISO list were liberalized, the reserved names list would still limit the use.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Annebeth Lange: .NIC is a special case, reserved not because it's a country code but because of its technical use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Alexander Schubert: Does not see any conflict here in the rules. You cannot apply for this code (.NIC). It is not clear how this is a conflict.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Susan Payne: Agrees with Alexander. This is an example where there are some terms that have multiple meanings. This could be phrased differently to be more clear. There are existing reserve names
restrictions that may include three-letter codes, but they are not all three-letter codes. This clarification may help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Does not think we have an agreement if it should be reserved or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:18.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">[Action Item: Bart will update the bullet four to make it a bit clearer]<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: Moving to recommendations which are on page 5. Former recommendations 1 and 3 were supported unanimously on the last call. There was discussion on point 2 at the time regarding future
work. Some members of the group felt that there are issues and topics that need to be addressed under 2 PDPs (GNSO and ccNSO) and ensure that there is no overlap. There was a reluctance among some ccTLD representatives to leave everything up to a GNSO PDP.
Recommendation 2 was not adopted unanimously in the last meeting. Heather Forrest made the suggestion to separate out recommendations that were supported unanimously with those that were not. A second option is to try to combine the different perspectives
into a single recommendation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Recommendation 3 has been split into two alternatives for the path forward (now included at the end)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: The GNSO Council is working towards answering the Board question about when and how new gTLDs can be delegated. There is a strong sense
that the issue of geographic names is one of the issues that needs to be addressed before subsequent procedures move forward. Bullet #1 in this current draft provides a clear message, but it is less clear what #2 adds to this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: #1 and #2 are points #1 and #3 from the original version of the report that received support from the group in the previous call.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Alexander Schubert: The Subsequent Procedures PDP is waiting to see the output of this group. Soon they will see that there is no real input from this group. They will start their own work, factoring
in the work that CWG has done. Right now we have the ownership of the issue, but not for much longer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Annebeth Lange: We have found that it is difficult to find the harmonized framework we sought, and the perspectives are so different. If we continue our work in the CWG, we will continue to face
this difficulty. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Just creating an exception for 2-letter and 3-letter codes is not a policy, it is temporarily setting them aside. As Annebeth said, the
issue is much bigger than 2-letter and 3-letter codes. It's important to underline that the community has taken a much broader definition of geographic names. Our narrow group’s definition was limited to 2- and 3- letter codes and we realize now that the problem
is much bigger. We must think about how we want to frame recommendations for the path forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Annebeth Lange: Nobody has the right to these names by law, but that does not mean that ICANN has to offer everything in its private contracts if using these names will have political or other implication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: Confirming with the group that the first recommendation is currently supported by the group [the group confirmed]. Recommendation 2 is also from the previous document.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: #2 is not 100% clear or differentiated from #1 in the current document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Alexander Schubert: Our scope and viewpoint is different from the people who are creating policy through the PDP. The perspective of the PDP group is much narrower.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: The definitions in the Applicant Guidebook were not very clear. If the community is not careful, they will be treading on territory that is both within the remit of the ccNSO and
the GNSO policy processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Alexander Schubert: Looking at real world outcomes, if we are not fast and come up with something concrete, they will create something on their own. If we want to impact the Applicant Guidebook for
the next round, we have to produce something concrete this year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Annebeth Lange: Is Alexander saying that those working with the subsequent round will respect the AGB on the ISO 3166 and keep it that way? My understanding has been that many wanted to change it,
to remove the "protection" and open up everything<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Susan Payne: Within the Subsequent Procedures PDP, the reserved names including geographical requirements are within scope. If there is advice from this working group, they will take it into consideration.
If the CWG does not produce advice, they will take up the issue. The CWG still plans on producing a recommendation on 2-letter codes as addressed in the draft report.
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: Yes, geographic names are within the remit of the PDP. He is flagging the concern raised by others that geographic names are not just within the remit of the GNSO but also the ccNSO.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Susan Payne: The PDP currently chartered is open to all, all from this group can participate. Even if we don't produce recommendations, individuals from this group still have an opportunity to provide
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: Background on the progress report and recommendations – the goal was to express that based on discussions to date, knowing that other efforts exist as well, it's impossible to create
a harmonized framework unless it's a collective effort, the only way to ensure that this is impactful is under a PDP. This is the focus of recommendation #1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt">: Agrees that recommendation #1 seems to stand. There appears to be less agreement or not a clear path on number 2 and 3. How can we wrap
this up for the next meeting so we can focus on the other document?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: Clarification -- first alternative for recommendation 3 begins "The CWG could not agree..." and second alternative begins "To ensure the conclusions..."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">[Action item: Bart will clarify text and recirculate so that it can be adopted.]<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bart Boswinkel: the purpose of the progress report is to give the community in Hyderabad an update on the direction of travel for this group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Annebeth Lange: Even if we don't manage to come up with a framework for 3-letter codes we should flag that we came to a recommendation for 2-letter codes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine@icann.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday 3 October 2016 at 18:25<br>
<b>To: </b>"ctn-crosscom@icann.org" <ctn-crosscom@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ctn-crosscom] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for CWG-UCTN WG call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;background:white">Dear All,</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black;background:white">Mirjana Tasic, .rs</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;background:white">Jaap Akkerhuis (</span><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#333333;background:white"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#333333;background:white">ISO
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;background:#FFFEFE">Bart Boswinkel</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing" style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;background:white">Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 3 October 2016:</span></u></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black;background:white"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Nathalie Peregrine: Dear all, welcome to the CWG on Country and Territory Names as TLDs meeting on the 3rd October 2016</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Nathalie Peregrine: Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/_A_4Aw</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): Hello All</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">bart boswinkel: Hello all</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Mirjana Tasic .rs: Hello all</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Nathalie Peregrine: Welcome everyone!</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Nathalie Peregrine: Mzia Gogilashvili has joined the call</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: pretty small print</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: can you zoon in?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: zoom in</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: this is much better
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: thanks</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: It is odd</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): .com ?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: I agree with you here, Alexander. There are different reasons behind this reservation (for .nic).</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Steve Chan: The Reserved Names list is in section 2.2.1.2.1 of the Applicant Guidebook: https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/evaluation-procedures-04jun12-en.pdf</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: but 3 letter coes are allowed</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: 3 letter words</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: Today 3-letter words are allowed, but not those on the ISO 3166-1 alpha 3.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: If these are opened, .nic will still be reserverd, as I see it.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: thanks Annebeth: so it means the iso list is reserved</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alexander Schubert: But we could recommend to ICANN to overthink whether ".nic" desprately HAS to be on the protected list. But that is not really our problem I think.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: So far it has been reserved, Carlos, but what we are discussing is whether it should be opened in the next round</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alexander Schubert: There is kind of an "overlap" - but no real "conflict" in my eyes.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: Agree, Alexandaer.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alexander Schubert: :-)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: we should say that there is no agreement</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: Could you scroll the document forward</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: OK</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Steve Chan: Rather than "conflict" or "overlap", it would seem like an exception because of the Reserved Names list.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: Yes, Steve</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: ok</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: ok</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: i see</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: @Annebeth it was just to metion one of the positions on the floor</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: Agree with Annebeth</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): we need some kind of voting (not many people participate today)</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): at least doodle poll or e-mail</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: #2 in my view is not 100% clear or differentiated from #1</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: Maxim, this is only a progress report</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: recommendations in my view would belong into the second paper</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): then it could be omited</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: but we can change it</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: I tend to support your postion Maxim on #2</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Carlos Raul Gutierrez: either make it clearer (CWG vs. PDP) or out</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: So Alexander, do you mean that those working with the subsequent round will respect the AGB on the ISO 3166 and keep it that way? My understanding has been that many wanted to change it, to remove
the "protection" and open up everything</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: I agree, Alexander, but the problem is that the views in this WG is widely apart, and I cannot see that we manage to deliver a "solution" that we agree on</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: I agree with you, Susan, 2-letters are not the difficult ones</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: So at least we can give that advice to the PDP</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Annebeth Lange: Agree, Bart, therefore the alternative for recommendation 3 takes this into consideration</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): non objection whould one of the ways , after all we might write, that there was non-objection or something like ut</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): it</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alexander Schubert: Do we expect to be mandated by gnSO and GAC to build another CWG? Or do we agree that if we do not come up with a solution the GNSO will take ownership of the task to develop a solution for
Teritory names and ISO3166 Alpha 3 names in the next round?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Mirjana Tasic .rs: I agree with Annebeth remark that our recommendation for two letter codes should be included in the progress report</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): 2100 </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Steve Chan: I do not see a conflict with the New gTLD group on the 17th. And this group is scheduled to meet at 2100 UTC.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Steve Chan: The New gTLD PDP WG is scheduled for 0300 on the 17th of Oct</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Susan Payne: sounds good</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Mirjana Tasic .rs: Bye</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Alexander Schubert: bye everbody!</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): bye all</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): bye</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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