<div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>Also agree with Alexander's comments. </div><div><br></div><div>In addition I would also like to point out that in number of places ie page 22, page 23 etc there is a claim "...is not consistent with or supported by the simple and long-standing principle that 2-character codes are ccTLDs and 3+-character codes are gTLDs." There is no such long-lasting principle. There was a principle that 2 letters were country codes, five 3 letter generics and one infrastructure TLD (.arpa). That was extended in 2000 with 7 new TLDs. Principle here is closed list of gTLDs and as many 2 letter country codes as there are countries. But that went out of the window with the first round of new gTLDs. Typing + after number 3, stating that whole string space starting from 3 letters was designed for use as gTLD and saying that this has always been how internet was made is ... lets just say wrong. I suggest to use more intelligent arguments when describing different opinions of this group.</div><div><br></div><div>The whole 5.2.6 paragraph is very painful read clearly written in free for all spirit as I see only how all arguments hinting an option for anything else than dropping the protection and giving unlimited access to iso 3 letter country codes are criticized. Was this really so one sided discussion in this group? I was not here at that time, so I really do not know. But after reading this, it is amazing to find out that there is no recommendation to give.</div><div>I see clear recommendation in 5.2.6 and conflicting conclusion in 5.3.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Timo Võhmar</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Annebeth Lange <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:annebeth.lange@uninett.no" target="_blank">annebeth.lange@uninett.no</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I agree with your input, Alexander.</div>
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<div><i>Kind regards</i></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span><<a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>> on behalf of Alexander Schubert<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 23:32<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom@icann.org</a>"<div><div class="h5"><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Ctn-crosscom] [Ext] Re: Interim Paper for public comment<br>
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<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Page 21 the three preferences how alpha-3 codes could be handled:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">1) support for opening all ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 codes to <span style="color:red">
eligiblity </span>as gTLDs (eligibility is misspelled - and the sentence makes no sense! Probably meant as: "...... to be eligible as gTLDs"?)<u></u><u></u></p>
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I do not see any more the option that has already garnered a LOT of support: Treating the 3 letter ISO 3166 alpha 3 codes like ALL other designators in the ISO 3166 (e.g. “BAR” or “TATA”): In the existing AG for ALL 3166 listed elements there is a requirement
that the relevant Government authority has to sign a letter of non-objection! <br>
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So I suggest we either add to 1) that OF COURSE the already established AG requirement for a letter of non-objection would be triggered for alpha-3 codes as well!<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Or we have a 4<sup>th</sup> preference.<br>
Indeed: Annex D provides for FOUR possibilities discussed by the SOs/ACs. <br>
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On page 22 it says:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">“Supporting to open all 3-character codes as gTLDs:<br>
• There is no sovereign or other ownership right of governments in country or territory names, including ISO 3166-1 codes,
<span style="color:red">so there is no legal basis for government veto power on allocation of these codes as gTLDs”</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Not true! The AG has a provision whereby ALL ISO 3166 elements need a letter of non-objection of the Government! See “.bar” or “.tata”! Obviously if already a tiny mini municipality like the TATA region (15,000 people, all desert, no
industry, but listed in ISO 3166) requires such a letter then OF COURSE a 3 letter ISO 3166 alpha 3 code requires it as well!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Alexander Schubert<br>
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From: <a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Emily Barabas<br>
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<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Dear Jaap,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">Emily<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText">On 25/01/17 04:48, "Jaap Akkerhuis" <<a href="mailto:jaap@NLnetLabs.nl" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jaap@NLnetLabs.nl</span></a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> Emily Barabas writes:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > Please find attached a revised version of the CWG-UCTN Interim Paper.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > This version incorporates language to reflect a lack of consensus on<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > recommendation 3.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > Kindly provide any final revisions or comments on the Interim Paper by<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> > Friday 3 February.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> Dear Emily,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> I did a quick scan and noticed that something went with the two<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> "Frames" about the ISO 3166. They now look as a single one to me. But<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> apart from that, the first one seemed to have a garbled sentences here<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> and there. Note the start of the second section, to quote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> The ISO body responsible for the standard 3166 is the<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> Technical Committee 46, systems etc. and as non-current,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> dependencies, and other areas of particular geopolitical<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> interest (ISO/TC 46/WG2).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> And there are more of these.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> I will have a nore close read later, but these things really needs to<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> be clean up.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="m_-4951569731272915285MsoPlainText"> jaap<u></u><u></u></p>
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