<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px">Thank you Alexander,</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Not to make this a long argument here, I just would like to point out that you keep leaving aside the point that in the referred RFC there is a closed list of gTLDs that are all only three letters long. In that context the ccTLDs are as closed as gTLD list, country codes list is just a bit longer and handled by ISO organisation. So pointing your focus only on the ccTLD part is what is misleading. For some reason it was OK to extend the list of gTLDs and even go beyond three letter limit without the fear of wrath of "god" but it is not for internationally recognized country codes.</span><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">I have had an honor of acquaintance with the chair and some of the GAC board members and GAC members as well. And I have heard quite a different story from what you are trying to say here. But arguing about what GAC thinks is a bit far away from what we are trying to achieve here. There is no need for demagoguery. The power of ccTLD does not stand only on the number of chars in the TLD - yes short is better, but do not forget the meaning, history, recall, SEO etc. But again, lets leave this to be a decision for the countries and national internet communities whether and how they want to use such codes and calculate the risks on how this would affect their current ccTLD. As an internet user, member of Estonian internet community, citizen of Estonia, representative of Estonian ccTLD and government I am not worried at all, so do not be either.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Best Regards, </div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Timo Võhmar</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Alexander Schubert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" target="_blank">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-8711661096282313860WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dear Timo,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">No, I am not creating “alternative facts” here, I quoted RFC <a href="tel:1591" value="+3721591" target="_blank">1591</a> verbatim and highlighted the relevant portion in <span style="color:red">red</span>:<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“There are a set of what are called "top-level domain names" (TLDs). </span><u></u><u></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> These are the generic TLDs (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), </span><u></u><u></u></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> and the <span style="color:red">two letter country codes from ISO-3166</span>.”<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“<span style="color:red">Two letter codes</span>” – not “three letter codes”. There is ISO-3166 Alpha-2 (the “two letter codes of ISO 3166) and there is ISO-3166 Alpha-3 (the “three letter codes of ISO 3166); and RFC <a href="tel:1591" value="+3721591" target="_blank">1591</a> CLEARLY specifies that it shall be the “</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:red">two letter country codes from ISO-3166</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">.”<br></span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><br>So you would need to rewrite RFC <a href="tel:1591" value="+3721591" target="_blank">1591</a> in order to allow non-two letter string based TLD’s being ccTLDs. Good luck with that. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">You missed the Helsinki meeting (even if it was only a 2.5h ferry ride away) – you might want to come to Copenhagen and present your case to the GAC. I am happy to introduce you to the Chair of the GAC and the Chair of the GAC working group dealing with territory names; I know these both well since over a decade. You might be surprised about their opinion of completely destroying the 32 year old order of visual separation of the ccTLD and the gTLD worlds. I understand that ccTLD operators want to expand their universe. But all that would happen is that all of a sudden their most valuable asset (the exclusivity of the character of ccTLDs – namely being two letter TLDs and hence intuitively separable from the gTLD world for ALL Internet users globally) would vanish. It’s like putting a small cut into a fabric – and then having to watch how it slowly destroying the sail that provided the power to strongly move ahead. To put it more drastic: It would be the END of ccTLDs. I am a gTLD guy – so if you want to destroy ccTLDs: Hey, just go for it. Fine with me. No objection whatsoever. I am just not sure the Internet User, GAC or the other ccTLD operators lightly agree with it.<br><br>Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alexander<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Timo Võhmar [mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.vohmar@internet.ee" target="_blank">timo.vohmar@internet.<wbr>ee</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 06, 2017 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> alexander@schubert.berlin</span></p><div><div class="h5"><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ctn-crosscom] [Ext] Re: Interim Paper for public comment<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Alexander,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I do not agree with your way of bending facts. The fact is, like you referred that "God" said, that this is the list of gTLDs <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT)</span> and there is also a list of ccTLDs corresponding to the list of ISO 3166. The separation here is not specified as the length of the TLD but the meaning - country specific vs for general use. All other interpretations are subjective interpretations of the fact. So my question here is if it was possible to extend the list of domains for generic or general use how is extending the list of TLDs for government or national community use different and all of a sudden against everything holy in the internet. So I continue to stand behind the opinion that we should avoid such allegations.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Timo Võhmar<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Alexander Schubert <<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" target="_blank">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Timo,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Sorry, but please study RFC <a href="tel:1591" target="_blank">1591</a> written in 1994 by Jon Postel (think of him as “God” for the DNS community – which would be a clear understatement) himself: <a href="http://rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1591.txt" target="_blank">rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1591.txt</a><br>It clearly specifies:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">“There are a set of what are called "top-level domain names" (TLDs). </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> These are the generic TLDs (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> and the <span style="color:red">two letter country codes from ISO-3166</span>.”<br><br>This order has been never once disrupted – all that happened is that more gTLDs were ADDED: Their character remained unchanged: Longer than 2 letters! That 2-letter TLDs are ccTLDs is not just a “long standing principle” – it is THE ONLY principle since the inception of the DNS in 1984. Postel thought it was “unlikely” that more TLD’s would be added – but “unlikely” is not “can never be”; and evidently it happened. But the strict separation of ccTLDs and gTLDs remained intact since the inception of the DNS.<br><br>Thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Alexander</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Timo Võhmar [mailto:<a href="mailto:timo.vohmar@internet.ee" target="_blank">timo.vohmar@internet.<wbr>ee</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> Annebeth Lange <<a href="mailto:annebeth.lange@uninett.no" target="_blank">annebeth.lange@uninett.no</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" target="_blank">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>; <a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom@icann.org</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ctn-crosscom] [Ext] Re: Interim Paper for public comment<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Also agree with Alexander's comments. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">In addition I would also like to point out that in number of places ie page 22, page 23 etc there is a claim "...is not consistent with or supported by the simple and long-standing principle that 2-character codes are ccTLDs and 3+-character codes are gTLDs." There is no such long-lasting principle. There was a principle that 2 letters were country codes, five 3 letter generics and one infrastructure TLD (.arpa). That was extended in 2000 with 7 new TLDs. Principle here is closed list of gTLDs and as many 2 letter country codes as there are countries. But that went out of the window with the first round of new gTLDs. Typing + after number 3, stating that whole string space starting from 3 letters was designed for use as gTLD and saying that this has always been how internet was made is ... lets just say wrong. I suggest to use more intelligent arguments when describing different opinions of this group.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The whole 5.2.6 paragraph is very painful read clearly written in free for all spirit as I see only how all arguments hinting an option for anything else than dropping the protection and giving unlimited access to iso 3 letter country codes are criticized. Was this really so one sided discussion in this group? I was not here at that time, so I really do not know. But after reading this, it is amazing to find out that there is no recommendation to give.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I see clear recommendation in 5.2.6 and conflicting conclusion in 5.3.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best Regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Timo Võhmar<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Annebeth Lange <<a href="mailto:annebeth.lange@uninett.no" target="_blank">annebeth.lange@uninett.no</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Hi Alexander and all,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">I agree with your input, Alexander.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Kind regards</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div id="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m_-2411053287041874579m_-4951569731272915285"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Annebeth Lange</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><<a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.<wbr>org</a>> on behalf of Alexander Schubert<br><b>Reply-To: </b>"<a href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" target="_blank">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>"<br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 23:32<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom@icann.org</a>"</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Ctn-crosscom] [Ext] Re: Interim Paper for public comment</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Hi,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Page 21 the three preferences how alpha-3 codes could be handled:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">1) support for opening all ISO 3166-1 alpha-3 codes to </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:red">eligiblity </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">as gTLDs (eligibility is misspelled - and the sentence makes no sense! Probably meant as: "...... to be eligible as gTLDs"?)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><br>I do not see any more the option that has already garnered a LOT of support: Treating the 3 letter ISO 3166 alpha 3 codes like ALL other designators in the ISO 3166 (e.g. “BAR” or “TATA”): In the existing AG for ALL 3166 listed elements there is a requirement that the relevant Government authority has to sign a letter of non-objection! <br><br>So I suggest we either add to 1) that OF COURSE the already established AG requirement for a letter of non-objection would be triggered for alpha-3 codes as well!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Or we have a 4<sup>th</sup> preference.<br>Indeed: Annex D provides for FOUR possibilities discussed by the SOs/ACs. <br><br><br>On page 22 it says:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">“Supporting to open all 3-character codes as gTLDs:<br>• There is no sovereign or other ownership right of governments in country or territory names, including ISO 3166-1 codes, </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:red">so there is no legal basis for government veto power on allocation of these codes as gTLDs”</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Not true! The AG has a provision whereby ALL ISO 3166 elements need a letter of non-objection of the Government! See “.bar” or “.tata”! Obviously if already a tiny mini municipality like the TATA region (15,000 people, all desert, no industry, but listed in ISO 3166) requires such a letter then OF COURSE a 3 letter ISO 3166 alpha 3 code requires it as well!</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Thanks,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Alexander Schubert</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Emily Barabas<br>Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:26 PM<br>To: Jaap Akkerhuis <<a href="mailto:jaap@NLnetLabs.nl" target="_blank">jaap@NLnetLabs.nl</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org" target="_blank">ctn-crosscom@icann.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Ctn-crosscom] [Ext] Re: Interim Paper for public comment</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Dear Jaap,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Thank you for your review and feedback. Staff will review the formatting and content of the frames. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">Emily</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">On 25/01/17 04:48, "Jaap Akkerhuis" <<a href="mailto:jaap@NLnetLabs.nl" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">jaap@NLnetLabs.nl</span></a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> Emily Barabas writes:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > Please find attached a revised version of the CWG-UCTN Interim Paper.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > This version incorporates language to reflect a lack of consensus on</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > recommendation 3.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > Kindly provide any final revisions or comments on the Interim Paper by</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> > Friday 3 February.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> Dear Emily,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> I did a quick scan and noticed that something went with the two</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> "Frames" about the ISO 3166. They now look as a single one to me. But</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> apart from that, the first one seemed to have a garbled sentences here</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> and there. Note the start of the second section, to quote:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> The ISO body responsible for the standard 3166 is the</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> Technical Committee 46, systems etc. and as non-current,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> dependencies, and other areas of particular geopolitical</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> interest (ISO/TC 46/WG2).</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> And there are more of these.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> I will have a nore close read later, but these things really needs to</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> be clean up.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="m_-8711661096282313860gmail-m-2411053287041874579m-4951569731272915285msoplaintext"><span 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