[client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Grace Abuhamad
grace.abuhamad at icann.org
Tue Aug 4 17:01:56 UTC 2015
Hi Sharon,
Yes, the Client Committee folks will share (or staff will).
From: <cwg-client-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Sharon Flanagan
<sflanagan at sidley.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 12:47 PM
To: Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson at afilias.info>, "Hofheimer, Joshua T."
<jhofheimer at sidley.com>, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
Cc: "Hitzeman, James W." <jhitzeman at sidley.com>, Client Committee
<cwg-client at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Hi Jonathan,
We will be sending the IPR memo to the Client Committee later today. Will
someone then forward to CWG (we don’t have email rights)?
Thanks,
Sharon
SHARON FLANAGAN
Partner
Sidley Austin LLP
+1.415.772.1271
sflanagan at sidley.com
From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:01 AM
To: Hofheimer, Joshua T.; 'Greg Shatan'
Cc: Hitzeman, James W.; cwg-client at icann.org; Flanagan, Sharon
Subject: RE: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Hello Josh,
Do you have a more precise estimate of when we’ll receive something?
Will you send it out during your day today?
Thank-you.
Jonathan
From: Hofheimer, Joshua T. [mailto:jhofheimer at sidley.com]
Sent: 29 July 2015 21:19
To: jrobinson at afilias.info; 'Greg Shatan' <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
Cc: Hitzeman, James W. <jhitzeman at sidley.com>; cwg-client at icann.org;
Flanagan, Sharon <sflanagan at sidley.com>
Subject: RE: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Jonathan -- We’ll look to have something for the committee to review by the
middle of next week, in advance of the Thursday call. There may be some
additional stressors the committee would like tested that will come out of
the call.
Sam Eisner – Would it be possible to have a brief call this afternoon? I
wanted to follow-up on the questions I had directed to Greg for obtaining
answers. I am in my LA office (California time), and can be available
anytime for the remainder of the day.
Cheers,
Josh
JOSHUA HOFHEIMER
Sidley Austin LLP
+1.213.896.6061 (LA direct)
+1.650.565.7561 (PA direct)
+1.323.708.2405 (cell)
jhofheimer at sidley.com
www.sidley.com <http://www.sidley.com/>
<http://www.sidley.com/> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
From: Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:58 AM
To: Hofheimer, Joshua T.; 'Greg Shatan'
Cc: Hitzeman, James W.; cwg-client at icann.org; Flanagan, Sharon
Subject: RE: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Josh / Sharon,
We have a CWG Meeting next Thursday (6th August) @ 11h00 UTC.
It will be helpful in planning for that meeting to know what (if anything)
you’ll be able to contribute (before or during the meeting) on the IPR
issue.
Thank-you.
Jonathan
From: Hofheimer, Joshua T. [mailto:jhofheimer at sidley.com]
Sent: 28 July 2015 01:34
To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
Cc: Hitzeman, James W. <jhitzeman at sidley.com>; cwg-client at icann.org
Subject: Re: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Thanks Greg, this is helpful. We would like to request a schedule from
Jones Day of all registered marks, names, logos, and the like, as well as
all domain names (including second level, redirects, etc.). We’d like to
get a sense of the enormity (or not) of the administrative task associated
with a change in ownership. This should be a worldwide schedule, and you’re
right, if Jones Day has been managing the docket all along, then hopefully
this won’t be hard to generate.
Nonetheless, this is a request that needs to be routed through the proper
channels, of course, so perhaps you or one of the co-chairs can facilitate
having this authorized and Jones Day set to the task.
Cheers,
Josh
JOSHUA HOFHEIMER
Sidley Austin LLP
+1.213.896.6061 (LA direct)
+1.650.565.7561 (PA direct)
+1.323.708.2405 (cell)
jhofheimer at sidley.com
www.sidley.com <http://www.sidley.com/>
<http://www.sidley.com/> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
From: Greg Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 3:23 PM
To: Hofheimer, Joshua T.
Cc: Flanagan, Sharon; cwg-client at icann.org; Pulaski, Katie
Subject: Re: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
Josh,
My answers are in-line below. Happy to discuss these or any other aspects
of this matter further.
Greg
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Hofheimer, Joshua T.
<jhofheimer at sidley.com> wrote:
Greg,
Thanks this is very helpful. A couple follow-up questions as well:
1. Are there trademarks, tradenames and logos that have been registered
in countries outside the United States?
I have not conducted a comprehensive search, but I am not aware of any
registrations outside the US. I did check the TMView search tool offered by
OHIM (European Community trademark office), which covers the CTM and many of
the country-level registrations, as well as the US. It did not reveal any
other registrations.
>
> 2. If so, are they all registered by ICANN, or in some jurisdictions are
> they owned by a local affiliate/subsidiary.
>
> 3. Would it be possible to get a schedule of all registered marks, names
> and logos, showing the mark, the registration date, number and registered
> owner? Ultimately, we are going to need this regardless, and hopefully ICANN
> staff have maintained it on a regular basis.
ICANN's outside counsel (Jones Day) should have all this information
available in their trademark docketing software, and they should be able to
quickly generate a report for all the IANA-related marks, with all this
information and more (you may want the description of goods & services as
well).
>
> 4. We also would like a schedule of all the domain names, including the
> identified Registrant and Registrar. The Administrative Contact would be
> useful too.
I would expect that the ICANN employee in charge of managing their domain
names should be able to generate a report with all this information. I do
know that ICANN owns iana.com
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UIBCw&e=> . iana.org
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UIBCw&e=> is the primary domain name. It appears that "IANA" may be
"registry reserved" string in at least some other top level domains.
Here is the WHOIS report for iana.com
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Domain Name: IANA.COM
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Update Date: 2014-10-19T17:48:13Z
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Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2023-10-19T03:59:59Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505
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Registrant City: Los Angeles
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Registrant Postal Code: 90094-2536
Registrant Country: United States
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Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4242171313
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: domain-admin at icann.org
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Administrator
Admin Organization: ICANN
Admin Street: 12025 Waterfront Drive
Admin Street: Suite 300
Admin City: Los Angeles
Admin State/Province: California
Admin Postal Code: 90094-2536
Admin Country: United States
Admin Phone: +1.4242171313
Admin Phone Ext:
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Registry Tech ID:
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Tech City: Los Angeles
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>
>
>
>
> Finally, in a prior email you forwarded with some background materials you
> expressed the concern that the IETF Trust might not be a legal person. Can
> you give us some further insight into the circumstances that give rise to this
> concern for you, or were your questions addressed by the IETF?
I based this on reviewing the trademark registration for IETF on the USPTO
website, where the trademark is held in the name of the trustees,
specifically as follows:
(REGISTRANT) The Trustees of the IETF TRUST, a Virginia trust, the trustees
comprising Stephen D. Crocker, Lucy Elizabeth Lynch, Lynn M. St. Amour and
Raymond G. Pelletier, Jr., all U.S. citizens, Brian E. Carpenter, a United
Kingdom citizen, Leslie L. Daigle and Edmund B. Juskevicius, both Canadian
citizens, Kurt Erik Lindqvist, a Swedish citizen and Jonne Adam Soininen, a
Finnish citizen TRUST VIRGINIA 1775 WIEHLE AVENUE #102 C/O RAY PELLETIER,
IETF ADMIN DIRECTOR RESTON VIRGINIA 201905108
I also based this on a review of the IETF Founding Documents, which are at
http://trustee.ietf.org/founding-documents.html
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It's worth noting that the IETF Trust is set up as a trust for
IETF-related IPR, and the sole beneficiary is the IETF (or
the IETF's successor with respect to the development of technical standards
for the Internet
.
)
I also reviewed that the IETF "General Trademark License" template on their
website, http://trustee.ietf.org/docs/IETF_General_TM_License.pdf
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name of the Trust and makes no mention of the Trustees. (Interestingly,
while this trademark license makes reference to usage and quality control
guidelines, which are in a separate document at
http://www.ietf.org/trademarks-guidelines
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contain what I would deem quality control guidelines (but only contains
usage guidelines).)
Hope this helps,
Greg
>
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>
> JOSHUA HOFHEIMER
> Sidley Austin LLP
> +1.213.896.6061 <tel:%2B1.213.896.6061> (LA direct)
> +1.650.565.7561 <tel:%2B1.650.565.7561> (PA direct)
> +1.323.708.2405 <tel:%2B1.323.708.2405> (cell)
> jhofheimer at sidley.com
> www.sidley.com <http://www.sidley.com/>
> <http://www.sidley.com/> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
>
>
>
> From:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Shatan
> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 5:45 AM
> To: Flanagan, Sharon
> Cc: cwg-client at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks
>
>
>
> Sharon,
>
>
>
> I started to put together some background information on the IANA trademarks
> that might be helpful to you and your colleagues, once you get the green light
> to proceed. It's based on information publicly available through the US
> Patent & Trademark Office website and the ICANN website, so there's nothing
> unique here, but it might save a little time and effort.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Flanagan, Sharon <sflanagan at sidley.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> With respect to Item #1 below, we would expect the stress test and assessment
> of the IPR issue under the three scenarios below would require approximately
> $35,000-40,000 of legal work. This would be for our analysis and review and
> would not include time spent on follow up calls or iterations of the document.
>
> Please let us know if you have any questions.
>
> Best regards,
> Sharon
>
>
> SHARON FLANAGAN
> Partner
>
> Sidley Austin LLP
> +1.415.772.1271 <tel:%2B1.415.772.1271>
> sflanagan at sidley.com
>
>
> From: Lise Fuhr [mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 6:58 AM
> To: Flanagan, Sharon
> Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Grace Abuhamad; Marika Konings; cwg-client at icann.org
> Subject: Request for a quote on two tasks
>
> Dear Sharon,
>
>
> As we talked about during the Client Committee call last Thursday, we have
> discussed with the CWG Sidley's eventual advice regarding two issues – IPR and
> a matrix of the bylaws. The CWG agreed to request Sidley to give an estimate
> of the hours needed in order to perform the two tasks:
> 1. IPR - To conduct a stress-test approach regarding the IANA IPR issue.
> This includes four aspects:
>
> a. Sidley should consult with ICANN Legal in order to obtain further insight
> and background to the IPR issue. This can be done with the involvement of
> other members of the CWG – like the Client Committee. Furthermore CWG is
> considering involving other communities in this fact-gathering exercise.
>
> b. There appear to be three possible scenarios. IANA’s IPR either:
> (i) stays with ICANN; (ii) goes to PTI; or (iii) goes into trust (IETF, mutual
> trust).
>
> c. What risks exist with each approach from a CWG-Stewardship perspective.
> These need to be evaluated in view of ICANN's position and the proposal from
> the other communities to determine what is optimal and/or acceptable.
>
> d. There are 3 trademarks involved: (i) "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority,"
> (ii) "IANA", and (iii) the IANA Logo, which consists of IANA in stylized
> letters plus Internet Assigned Numbers Authority.
>
>
>
> 2. Matrix of the ICANN bylaws:
>
> Create a matrix to help determine where the bylaws that are needed in relation
> to the CWG proposal belong. Identify which bylaws Sidley would suggest that
> the CWG should draft (be in charge of having drafted), and which bylaws
> drafted by the CCWG need to be signed off by the CWG. There will be a part of
> the bylaws that are being prepared by the CCWG that have no direct
> relationship to the CWG's work and these constitute a third category.
>
>
> After receiving the quote, the Client Committee will evaluate the estimates of
> the two tasks and get back to you.
>
> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get back to me.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Lise
>
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