[client com] Request for a quote on two tasks

Maarten Simon maarten.simon at sidn.nl
Tue Jul 21 07:12:22 UTC 2015

Yes, good plan !

From: <cwg-client-bounces at icann.org<mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
Date: Monday 20 July 2015 18:10
To: "lise.fuhr at difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>" <lise.fuhr at difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>>
Cc: "cwg-client at icann.org<mailto:cwg-client at icann.org>" <cwg-client at icann.org<mailto:cwg-client at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [client com] Request for a quote on two tasks

I strongly support moving forward on both points as quickly as possible.


On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr at difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>> wrote:
Hi Greg and Maarten,

The chairs recommend that we proceed with the two issues – the matrix and the IPR on the basis of the two quotes. Do you have any objections to this? Please indicate your position on this as soon as possible and at the latest on Tuesday July 22nd .

If you agree to go ahead, we will let CWG know that this is our intention and then commission the work with Sidley right after.

Jonathan and Lise

Fra: Flanagan, Sharon [mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com<mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com>]
Sendt: 18. juli 2015 15:33
Til: cwg-client at icann.org<mailto:cwg-client at icann.org>; Jonathan Robinson; 'Lise Fuhr'; Grace Abuhamad; Marika Konings
Cc: Gregory, Holly; Hofheimer, Joshua T.
Emne: RE: Request for a quote on two tasks

Dear All,

With respect to Item #1 below, we would expect the stress test and assessment of the IPR issue under the three scenarios below would require approximately $35,000-40,000 of legal work.  This would be for our analysis and review and would not include time spent on follow up calls or iterations of the document.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Best regards,


Sidley Austin LLP
sflanagan at sidley.com<mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com>

From: Lise Fuhr [mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 6:58 AM
To: Flanagan, Sharon
Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Grace Abuhamad; Marika Konings; cwg-client at icann.org<mailto:cwg-client at icann.org>
Subject: Request for a quote on two tasks

Dear Sharon,

As we talked about during the Client Committee call last Thursday, we have discussed with the CWG Sidley's eventual advice regarding two issues – IPR and a matrix of the bylaws. The CWG agreed to request Sidley to give an estimate of the hours needed in order to perform the two tasks:

1.       IPR - To conduct a stress-test approach regarding the IANA IPR issue. This includes four aspects:

a.  Sidley should consult with ICANN Legal in order to obtain further insight and background to the IPR issue. This can be done with the involvement of other members of the CWG – like the Client Committee. Furthermore CWG is considering involving other communities in this fact-gathering exercise.

b. There appear to be three possible scenarios. IANA’s IPR either:
(i) stays with ICANN; (ii) goes to PTI; or (iii) goes into trust (IETF, mutual trust).

c. What risks exist with each approach from a CWG-Stewardship perspective. These need to be evaluated in view of ICANN's position and the proposal from the other communities to determine what is optimal and/or acceptable.

d. There are 3 trademarks involved: (i) "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority," (ii) "IANA", and (iii) the IANA Logo, which consists of IANA in stylized letters plus Internet Assigned Numbers Authority.

2.       Matrix of the ICANN bylaws:

Create a matrix to help determine where the bylaws that are needed in relation to the CWG proposal belong.  Identify which bylaws Sidley would suggest that the CWG should draft (be in charge of having drafted), and which bylaws drafted by the CCWG need to be signed off by the CWG. There will be a part of the bylaws that are being prepared by the CCWG that have no direct relationship to the CWG's work and these constitute a third category.

After receiving the quote, the Client Committee will evaluate the estimates of the two tasks and get back to you.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get back to me.

Best regards,


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