[client com] Fwd: FW: Revised Community Agreement Draft: 08-05-2016
Greg Shatan
gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Mon Aug 8 22:34:16 UTC 2016
In this email, my responses to the comments.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: FW: Revised Community Agreement Draft: 08-05-2016
To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
Cc: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>, Andrew Sullivan <
ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org" <
cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
All,
Please see my responses (in "balloon" comments) to Kavouss's comments.
Greg
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear All,
> No matter who made the changes, I am commenting on the text not on the
> author's identity.
> I have had to convert the PDF in word and have done my verifications and
> attached my comments
> There are serious problems in some of the terms.
> I have indicated all in terms of deletion with reasons and/or with
> comments in round bracket.
> Regartds
> Kavouss
>
> 2016-08-07 20:15 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>:
>
>> The changes were not made by me. The changes were made by the CWG's
>> counsel and the IETF Trust's counsel working collaboratively, which came
>> after discussion of the IANA IPR collaborative group (including reps of all
>> the communities and the Trust).
>>
>> I don't have the redline in Word. I sent to the list everything that was
>> initially sent by the IETF Trust's counsel to CWG's counsel to the Client
>> Committee list.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear ALL
>>>
>>> I HAVE no comments on the initial text before being changed
>>> Regards
>>> Kavouss
>>>
>>> 2016-08-07 18:04 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Seun
>>>> NO
>>>> PLS DO NOT MAKE MY JOB HARD..
>>>> WHY NOT A RED MARK WORD VERSION
>>>> Regards
>>>> Kavouss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-08-07 17:42 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Kavous,
>>>>>
>>>>> An option could be that you look at the PDF and make your comment on
>>>>> the word version(though you can make comment on the pdf as well)
>>>>>
>>>>> Another option is if you (or someone) has the previous clean version
>>>>> then one can produce a redline off the two clean versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my LG G4
>>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7 Aug 2016 4:37 p.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>> Tks again for your kind reply.
>>>>>> Please send me a red mark Word Version and I Will reply today.
>>>>>> I HAVE SOME CONCERS ON SOME OF THE CHANGED MADE BY GREC
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Kavouss
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-08-07 17:28 GMT+02:00 Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know whetheer you will get that before tomorrow, and that is
>>>>>>> really rather late. Can you at least say what your concerns are?
>>>>>>> There really isn't a lot of time: this needs to go to public comment
>>>>>>> on Thursday. An additional day to wait for the comments would be
>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 05:14:50PM +0200, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>>>>>>> > Seun,
>>>>>>> > I know that a word version was included but the Word Version is a
>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>> > Text and it is difficult to identify the changes .I wish to see
>>>>>>> what was
>>>>>>> > the changes introduced by Greg
>>>>>>> > I still need the red mark text in WORD VERSION.
>>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>>> > Kavouss
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > 2016-08-07 14:09 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > > A word version was included in Greg's mail
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Regards
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > Sent from my LG G4
>>>>>>> > > Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > On 7 Aug 2016 10:36 a.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <
>>>>>>> kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> > > wrote:
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >> Grec,
>>>>>>> > >> Thank you very much for the amendments. I do not agree with
>>>>>>> some of them
>>>>>>> > >> In order to enable me to provide my counter comments to you,
>>>>>>> pls provide
>>>>>>> > >> a word version of your amendment as soon as convinient
>>>>>>> > >> Regards
>>>>>>> > >> Kavouss
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >> 2016-08-07 0:22 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>> > >>> CWG,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> I am forwarding a revised draft of the proposed Community
>>>>>>> Agreement
>>>>>>> > >>> relating to the IANA IPR. In addition to any other comments
>>>>>>> you may have,
>>>>>>> > >>> I draw your attention to the two specific items in the email
>>>>>>> below: (1)
>>>>>>> > >>> identifying an entity to sign for the names community, and (2)
>>>>>>> providing a
>>>>>>> > >>> brief description of the IANA Services used by the names
>>>>>>> community (
>>>>>>> > >>> *see* Exhibit A for descriptions provided by the other
>>>>>>> communities).
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> This will be the subject of further refinement by the IPR
>>>>>>> collaborative
>>>>>>> > >>> group early in the week, with the goal of initiating a public
>>>>>>> comment
>>>>>>> > >>> period as soon as possible after the CWG-IANA meeting on
>>>>>>> Thursday.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Greg
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> > >>> From: Hofheimer, Joshua T. <jhofheimer at sidley.com>
>>>>>>> > >>> Date: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 4:55 PM
>>>>>>> > >>> Subject: [client com] FW: Revised Community Agreement Draft:
>>>>>>> 08-05-2016
>>>>>>> > >>> To: Client <cwg-client at icann.org>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Dear Client Committee,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Attached please find a revised draft of the proposed Community
>>>>>>> Agreement
>>>>>>> > >>> for your review and comment. This is an iterative version
>>>>>>> prepared jointly
>>>>>>> > >>> by counsel (Sidley) to the CWG and counsel to the IETF Trust
>>>>>>> to reflect the
>>>>>>> > >>> 7-point discussion items. To be clear, it is still a work in
>>>>>>> progress, but
>>>>>>> > >>> we believe ready for the CWG to have an opportunity for review.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Two important issues to highlight:
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> 1) the Names Community needs to determine who will be the
>>>>>>> signatory
>>>>>>> > >>> party, acting on behalf of the Names Community, to the
>>>>>>> Community
>>>>>>> > >>> Agreement. For your information, the attached draft has the
>>>>>>> organizations
>>>>>>> > >>> put forward to represent the Numbers and Protocols
>>>>>>> Communities; and
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> 2) we need a brief description of the IANA services to be
>>>>>>> provided on
>>>>>>> > >>> behalf of the Names Community. The following high-level
>>>>>>> description was
>>>>>>> > >>> included in a draft of the Naming Functions Agreement. If
>>>>>>> this is
>>>>>>> > >>> acceptable for including here is well, please advise (or we
>>>>>>> ask the Client
>>>>>>> > >>> Committee to provide a sufficient description):
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> The “*IANA Naming Function*” is comprised of:
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> (a) Management of the DNS Root Zone (“*Root Zone
>>>>>>> Management*
>>>>>>> > >>> ”);
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> (b) Management of the .INT top-level domain;
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> (c) Maintenance of a repository of
>>>>>>> internationalized
>>>>>>> > >>> domain name tables and label generation rule sets; and
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> (d) Provision of other services related to the
>>>>>>> management
>>>>>>> > >>> of .INT top-level domains, at ICANN’s reasonable request and
>>>>>>> at ICANN’s
>>>>>>> > >>> expense.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Please provide any comment or feedback as soon as practical,
>>>>>>> as we are
>>>>>>> > >>> trying to finalize the draft for approval by the various
>>>>>>> stakeholders and
>>>>>>> > >>> release for public comment by Thursday.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Josh
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *Joshua Hofheimer*
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *Sidley Austin LLP*
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *jhofheimer at sidley.com <jhofheimer at sidley.com>*
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *(213) 896-6061 <%28213%29%20896-6061> (LA direct)*
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *(650) 565-7561 <%28650%29%20565-7561> (Palo Alto direct)*
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *(323) 708-2405 <%28323%29%20708-2405> (cell)*
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> *From:* iana-ipr-bounces at nro.net [mailto:
>>>>>>> iana-ipr-bounces at nro.net] *On
>>>>>>> > >>> Behalf Of *Jorge Contreras
>>>>>>> > >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 10:01 AM
>>>>>>> > >>> *To:* iana-ipr at nro.net
>>>>>>> > >>> *Subject:* [Iana-ipr] Revised Community Agreement Draft:
>>>>>>> 08-05-2016
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> All – attached is a draft of the Community Agreement that Josh
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> > >>> have collaborated on over the past two days. We believe that
>>>>>>> it reflects
>>>>>>> > >>> the current requirements of the parties, and submit it for
>>>>>>> your review and
>>>>>>> > >>> discussion.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> A clean version, as well as a marked version against the draft
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> > >>> 07-30-16 (in PDF format) are attached.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Please note a few items that still need to be completed,
>>>>>>> including the
>>>>>>> > >>> description of the IANA Names Service, the identities of the
>>>>>>> CCG
>>>>>>> > >>> representatives, etc.
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Jorge
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Jorge L. Contreras
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Contreras Legal Strategy LLC
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> 1711 Massachusetts Ave. NW, No. 710
>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>> > >>> Washington, DC 20036
>>>>>>> > >>>
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>>>>>>> > >>>
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>>>>>>> Andrew Sullivan
>>>>>>> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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