[client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract - Annex C (Sections 7and 8)

Lise Fuhr Fuhr at etno.eu
Mon Jun 6 15:41:17 UTC 2016


Dear Paul and Sharon,

I believe C.8.3. should apply to both communities and that this should be a general rule - unless other requirements would contradict including the gTLDs. Regarding the C.8.2. I believe it would be good also to check if this is properly addressed and if not to include this like we do with C.8.3.

Best,
Lise

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul M Kane [mailto:Paul.Kane at icb.co.uk] 
Sent: 06 June 2016 08:44
To: Flanagan, Sharon
Cc: Lise Fuhr; Client Committee
Subject: Re: [client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract - Annex C (Sections 7and 8)

Thanks Sharon

My concern ccTLDs only - as in the past ICANN/IANA have conducted back-channel (reassignment/redelegation/retirement) negotiations to the detriment of the incumbent ccTLD Registry Manager and their registrants.

gTLD's arrangements are determined by their contacts with ICANN... so outside the scope of the PTI Bylaws/Contract.

Concerning C.8.2 - this was raised to ensure that the PTI-ICANN contract ensured that correct processes are followed.  It is not my issue but I assume it is already covered.

Best

Paul

On 06/06/16 01:31, Flanagan, Sharon wrote:
> Paul -
>  
> With respect to incorporating C.8.3 into the PTI bylaws and contract, 
> can you advise whether the language applies to ccTLDs only or needs to 
> cover both gTLDs and ccTLDs?
>  
>  
> C.8 PERFORMANCE EXCLUSIONS
>  
> C.8.1 This contract does not authorize the Contractor to make 
> modifications, additions, or deletions to the root zone file or 
> associated information. (This contract does not alter the root zone 
> file responsibilities as set forth in Amendment 11 of the Cooperative 
> Agreement NCR-
> 9218742 between the U.S. Department of Commerce and VeriSign, Inc. or 
> any successor entity as designated by the U.S. Department of 
> Commerce). See Amendment 11 at 
> http://ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/amend11_052206.pdf.
> C.8.2 This contract does not authorize the Contractor to make material 
> changes in the policies and procedures developed by the relevant 
> entities associated with the performance of the IANA functions. The 
> Contractor shall not change or implement the established methods 
> associated with the performance of the IANA functions without prior 
> approval of the CO.
> C.8.3 The performance of the functions under this contract, including 
> the development of recommendations in connection with Section C.2.9.2, 
> shall not be, in any manner, predicated or conditioned on the 
> existence or entry into any contract, agreement or negotiation between 
> the Contractor and any party requesting such changes or any other 
> third-party. Compliance with this Section must be consistent with 
> C.2.9.2d
>  
> Thanks
>  
>  
>  
> SHARON R. FLANAGAN
>  
>  
> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
> +1 415 772 1271
> _sflanagan at sidley.com_ <mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com>
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: _cwg-client-bounces at icann.org_
> <mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org>
> [_mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org_] On Behalf Of Flanagan, Sharon
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 3:01 PM
> To: Paul M Kane; Lise Fuhr; Client Committee
> Subject: Re: [client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract 
> - Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> I have not heard further on whether C.8.2 is also required to be 
> addressed.  I understand Paul is fine without it and is focused on C.8.3.
>  
> Could someone please advise?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> SHARON R. FLANAGAN
>  
>  
> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
> +1 415 772 1271
> _sflanagan at sidley.com_ <mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com>
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul M Kane [_mailto:Paul.Kane at icb.co.uk_]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 9:57 AM
> To: Lise Fuhr; Flanagan, Sharon; Client Committee
> Cc: 'Grace Abuhamad'
> Subject: Re: [client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract 
> - Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>  
> My issue is C8.3 - which has not been addressed ... specifically the 
> last part of:
>  
> ....shall not be, in any manner, predicated or conditioned on the 
> existence or entry into any contract, agreement or negotiation between 
> the Contractor and any party requesting such changes or any other 
> third-party.
>  
>  
> During a call today C8.2 was raised ... this is not my issue and it 
> may have been covered already... may be it is more of a contract issue 
> rather than a Bylaw issue.
>  
> Best
>  
> Paul
>  
> On 01/06/16 17:38, Lise Fuhr wrote:
>> As I understood it both were equally important. But since Paul is cc on this email I believe he should confirm it.
>> Best,ave
>> Lise
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Flanagan, Sharon [_mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com_]
>> Sent: 01 June 2016 18:36
>> To: Lise Fuhr; Client Committee
>> Cc: Paul Kane; 'Grace Abuhamad'
>> Subject: RE: [client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI 
>> Bylaws/Contract - Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>> 
>> Thanks for the clarification.  Paul Kane separately emailed and referred to C.8.3 (which tracks the language originally quoted below).  Is it also C.8.2 or just C.8.3?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Sharon
>> 
>> SHARON R. FLANAGAN
>> 
>> 
>> SIDLEY AUSTIN LLP
>> +1 415 772 1271
>> _sflanagan at sidley.com_ <mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com>
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lise Fuhr [_mailto:Fuhr at etno.eu_]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 7:09 AM
>> To: Flanagan, Sharon; Client Committee
>> Cc: Paul Kane; 'Grace Abuhamad'
>> Subject: RE: [client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI 
>> Bylaws/Contract - Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> Hi Sharon,
>> Paul's concerns is actually relating to Section C.8.2. - 8.3. in the NTIA/ICANN contract and not the C.2.9.2 and this seems not be covered by the proposed language.
>> Best,
>> Lise
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: _cwg-client-bounces at icann.org_ 
>> <mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org>
> [_mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org_] On Behalf Of Grace Abuhamad
>> Sent: 31 May 2016 21:10
>> To: Client Committee
>> Cc: Paul Kane
>> Subject: [client com] FW: Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract - 
>> Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>> 
>> Forwarding Paul’s response below. 
>> 
>> On 5/26/16, 7:42 AM, "Paul M Kane" <_Paul.Kane at icb.co.uk_ <mailto:Paul.Kane at icb.co.uk>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Grace and Sharon
>>>
>>> The draft Bylaws (as a non-lawyer) look fine.... I think we are almost there.... 
>>>
>>> Looking at the current NTIA/ICANN contract the goal is to ensure 
>>> stability of each ccTLD Registry and the Registry's customers - ie 
>>> nothing is done by
>>> PTI(IANA) to impact the stable operation of the ccTLD Registry
>>>
>>> Section C.2.9.2
>>> (_https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/sf_26_pg_1-2-fina
>>> l_aw_
>>> ard_and_sacs.pdf) , shall not be, in any manner, predicated or 
>>> conditioned on the existence or entry into any contract, agreement 
>>> or negotiation between the Contractor and any party requesting such 
>>> changes or any other third party
>>>
>>> This forces PTI/IANA to refer the all matters to the current 
>>> Registry Operator... and IANA/PTI does not interfere in the operation of that ccTLD Registry.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> .
>>> .  
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject:     FW: [client com] Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract -
>>>> Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>>>> Date:        Tue, 24 May 2016 21:29:54 +0000
>>>> From:        Grace Abuhamad <_grace.abuhamad at icann.org_ <mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org>>
>>>> To:  Paul Kane <_paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk_ 
>>>> <mailto:paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk>>, Paul Kane
> <_Paul.Kane at icb.co.uk_ <mailto:Paul.Kane at icb.co.uk>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> Forwarding this to you per Sharon’s request.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *Grace Abuhamad*
>>>>
>>>> Manager, Public Policy
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>>>> *From: *<_cwg-client-bounces at icann.org_ 
>>>> <mailto:cwg-client-bounces at icann.org>> on
> behalf of Sharon Flanagan
>>>> <_sflanagan at sidley.com_ <mailto:sflanagan at sidley.com>>
>>>> *Date: *Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:32 PM
>>>> *To: *Client Committee <_cwg-client at icann.org_ 
>>>> <mailto:cwg-client at icann.org>>
>>>> *Subject: *[client com] Draft Provisions for PTI Bylaws/Contract - 
>>>> Annex C (Sections 7and 8)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Client Committee,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following up on our call today, attached is a draft of proposed 
>>>> language to reflect Sections 7 and 8 of Annex C to the CWG proposal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Grace – could you please forward to Paul Kane?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Sharon
>>>>
>>>> *SHARON R. FLANAGAN*
>>>>
>>>>
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