<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Response to email just sent.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Milton L Mueller</b> <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:35 AM<br>Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Initial Discussion Draft on Transition Models<br>To: Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>&gt;, Lise Fuhr &lt;<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>&gt;<br>Cc: &quot;<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>&gt;<br><br><br>





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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">A quick observation; the legal separation option does not seem to includ<font color="#1f497d"><span style="color:#1f497d">e</span></font> advantages/disadvantages like the functional separation.
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<p><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">MM: Actually it does. The discussion draft makes it clear that the legal separation is used as the benchmark, and then compared to
 functional separation. Thus, the “advantages” of functional separation are the “disadvantages” of legal separation, and the “disadvantages” of functional separation are the “advantages” of legal separation.
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<p><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">After reviewing these pros and cons, I think the only substantive advantage of functional separation is this one:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.5pt">“Avoids the need to create another layer of governance and accountability at the IANA level and associated complexity; the focus can be on ICANN governance and accountability.”</span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">But this alleged advantage is a mirage. It would be nice to avoid governance problems. But of course, the easiest way to avoid complexity
 and governance would be to have no accountability at all. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This ‘disadvantage’ of legal separation is really its chief advantage. The reforms of ICANN governance and accountability that come
 from the CCWG will be reforms oriented to its policy making process, not IANA operations. ICANN is dominated by the policy making process for domain names and the administration of its contracts with registries and registrars – it accounts for 95% of its budget.
 IANA is a tiny part of ICANN’s overall enterprise. Internal reforms of ICANN governance and accountability are going to be focused on making sure that the policies passed by the board reflect the preferences of its stakeholder groups. Unless there are governance
 and accountability reforms _<i><span style="font-style:italic">specifically targeting IANA operations</span></i>_ the general ICANN CCWG process will do nothing for IANA. And if those specific governance and accountability reforms for IANA are put into place
 in an internal solution – voila – you have the same additional “complexity” and additional layers of governance that you have in the legal separation. So there is really no gain in simplicity from an internal option.
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<p><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Let’s bite the bullet and do it right. Legal separation is a requirement.
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