<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Chuck Gomes response to comments.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Gomes, Chuck</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>></span><br>Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 11:32 PM<br>Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] FW: Revised Community Agreement Draft:        08-05-2016<br>To: Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>><br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br><br><br>I for one trust the experts who have put this together. Unless others with comparable expertise can point out any significant problems, I am willing to trust those who are representing us. If there are any serious problems, we will have the public comment period to catch them.<br>
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> On Aug 7, 2016, at 11:10 PM, Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Full disclosure: I'm a trustee and part of the group that is<br>
> negotiating this agreement on behalf of the IETF Trust.<br>
><br>
> I want first of all to agree in general with Greg's responses. But I<br>
> also implore people to think very hard about fussing with the text<br>
> from the lawyers when the CWG negotiating team brings it to you. We<br>
> really only have a few days to do this. These agreements need to go<br>
> out to public comment before ICANN prepares its report for NTIA. That<br>
> happens Friday, so comment needs to start on Thursday. If we miss<br>
> this window, then the IPR piece (which is a prerequisite for the<br>
> transition) will not be complete in NTIA's evaluation, and they may<br>
> decide to renew the IANA contract. In effect, we have to be done<br>
> everything but document preparation on Wednesday.<br>
><br>
> It would be a terrible shame if the transition fell apart on a small<br>
> matter like the IPR. I believe the better thing to ask in every case<br>
> is not whether something is exactly the way you would do it, but<br>
> whether it is something you can live with. If the answer is, "Yes," I<br>
> would encourage you to say so.<br>
><br>
> Thanks and best regards,<br>
><br>
> A<br>
><br>
><br>
>> On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 06:07:17PM -0400, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
>> All,<br>
>><br>
>> Please see my responses (in "balloon" comments) to Kavouss's comments.<br>
>><br>
>> Greg<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Dear All,<br>
>>> No matter who made the changes, I am commenting on the text not on the<br>
>>> author's identity.<br>
>>> I have had to convert the PDF in word and have done my verifications and<br>
>>> attached my comments<br>
>>> There are serious problems in some of the terms.<br>
>>> I have indicated all in terms of deletion with reasons and/or with<br>
>>> comments in round bracket.<br>
>>> Regartds<br>
>>> Kavouss<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2016-08-07 20:15 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> The changes were not made by me. The changes were made by the CWG's<br>
>>>> counsel and the IETF Trust's counsel working collaboratively, which came<br>
>>>> after discussion of the IANA IPR collaborative group (including reps of all<br>
>>>> the communities and the Trust).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I don't have the redline in Word. I sent to the list everything that was<br>
>>>> initially sent by the IETF Trust's counsel to CWG's counsel to the Client<br>
>>>> Committee list.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Greg<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sunday, August 7, 2016, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Dear ALL<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I HAVE no comments on the initial text before being changed<br>
>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>> Kavouss<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> 2016-08-07 18:04 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Seun<br>
>>>>>> NO<br>
>>>>>> PLS DO NOT MAKE MY JOB HARD..<br>
>>>>>> WHY NOT A RED MARK WORD VERSION<br>
>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>> Kavouss<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> 2016-08-07 17:42 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Hello Kavous,<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> An option could be that you look at the PDF and make your comment on<br>
>>>>>>> the word version(though you can make comment on the pdf as well)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Another option is if you (or someone) has the previous clean version<br>
>>>>>>> then one can produce a redline off the two clean versions.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Sent from my LG G4<br>
>>>>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2016 4:37 p.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Dear Andrew,<br>
>>>>>>>> Tks again for your kind reply.<br>
>>>>>>>> Please send me a red mark Word Version and I Will reply today.<br>
>>>>>>>> I HAVE SOME CONCERS ON SOME OF THE CHANGED MADE BY GREC<br>
>>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>>> Kavouss<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> 2016-08-07 17:28 GMT+02:00 Andrew Sullivan <<a href="mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com">ajs@anvilwalrusden.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know whetheer you will get that before tomorrow, and that is<br>
>>>>>>>>> really rather late. Can you at least say what your concerns are?<br>
>>>>>>>>> There really isn't a lot of time: this needs to go to public comment<br>
>>>>>>>>> on Thursday. An additional day to wait for the comments would be<br>
>>>>>>>>> bad.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> A<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 05:14:50PM +0200, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Seun,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> I know that a word version was included but the Word Version is a<br>
>>>>>>>>> clean<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Text and it is difficult to identify the changes .I wish to see<br>
>>>>>>>>> what was<br>
>>>>>>>>>> the changes introduced by Greg<br>
>>>>>>>>>> I still need the red mark text in WORD VERSION.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Kavouss<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> 2016-08-07 14:09 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> A word version was included in Greg's mail<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my LG G4<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Aug 2016 10:36 a.m., "Kavouss Arasteh" <<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Grec,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the amendments. I do not agree with<br>
>>>>>>>>> some of them<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In order to enable me to provide my counter comments to you,<br>
>>>>>>>>> pls provide<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a word version of your amendment as soon as convinient<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kavouss<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-08-07 0:22 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>> :<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CWG,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am forwarding a revised draft of the proposed Community<br>
>>>>>>>>> Agreement<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relating to the IANA IPR. In addition to any other comments<br>
>>>>>>>>> you may have,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I draw your attention to the two specific items in the email<br>
>>>>>>>>> below: (1)<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> identifying an entity to sign for the names community, and (2)<br>
>>>>>>>>> providing a<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brief description of the IANA Services used by the names<br>
>>>>>>>>> community (<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *see* Exhibit A for descriptions provided by the other<br>
>>>>>>>>> communities).<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will be the subject of further refinement by the IPR<br>
>>>>>>>>> collaborative<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group early in the week, with the goal of initiating a public<br>
>>>>>>>>> comment<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> period as soon as possible after the CWG-IANA meeting on<br>
>>>>>>>>> Thursday.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Hofheimer, Joshua T. <<a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 4:55 PM<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [client com] FW: Revised Community Agreement Draft:<br>
>>>>>>>>> 08-05-2016<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Client <<a href="mailto:cwg-client@icann.org">cwg-client@icann.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Client Committee,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached please find a revised draft of the proposed Community<br>
>>>>>>>>> Agreement<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for your review and comment. This is an iterative version<br>
>>>>>>>>> prepared jointly<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by counsel (Sidley) to the CWG and counsel to the IETF Trust<br>
>>>>>>>>> to reflect the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7-point discussion items. To be clear, it is still a work in<br>
>>>>>>>>> progress, but<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we believe ready for the CWG to have an opportunity for review.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two important issues to highlight:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) the Names Community needs to determine who will be the<br>
>>>>>>>>> signatory<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> party, acting on behalf of the Names Community, to the<br>
>>>>>>>>> Community<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreement. For your information, the attached draft has the<br>
>>>>>>>>> organizations<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> put forward to represent the Numbers and Protocols<br>
>>>>>>>>> Communities; and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) we need a brief description of the IANA services to be<br>
>>>>>>>>> provided on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of the Names Community. The following high-level<br>
>>>>>>>>> description was<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> included in a draft of the Naming Functions Agreement. If<br>
>>>>>>>>> this is<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable for including here is well, please advise (or we<br>
>>>>>>>>> ask the Client<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee to provide a sufficient description):<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The “*IANA Naming Function*” is comprised of:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (a) Management of the DNS Root Zone (“*Root Zone<br>
>>>>>>>>> Management*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ”);<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (b) Management of the .INT top-level domain;<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (c) Maintenance of a repository of<br>
>>>>>>>>> internationalized<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain name tables and label generation rule sets; and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (d) Provision of other services related to the<br>
>>>>>>>>> management<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of .INT top-level domains, at ICANN’s reasonable request and<br>
>>>>>>>>> at ICANN’s<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> expense.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please provide any comment or feedback as soon as practical,<br>
>>>>>>>>> as we are<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to finalize the draft for approval by the various<br>
>>>>>>>>> stakeholders and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release for public comment by Thursday.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you in advance.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Joshua Hofheimer*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sidley Austin LLP*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *<a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a> <<a href="mailto:jhofheimer@sidley.com">jhofheimer@sidley.com</a>>*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *<a href="tel:%28213%29%20896-6061" value="+12138966061">(213) 896-6061</a> <%28213%29%20896-6061> (LA direct)*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *<a href="tel:%28650%29%20565-7561" value="+16505657561">(650) 565-7561</a> <%28650%29%20565-7561> (Palo Alto direct)*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *<a href="tel:%28323%29%20708-2405" value="+13237082405">(323) 708-2405</a> <%28323%29%20708-2405> (cell)*<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* <a href="mailto:iana-ipr-bounces@nro.net">iana-ipr-bounces@nro.net</a> [mailto:<br>
>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:iana-ipr-bounces@nro.net">iana-ipr-bounces@nro.net</a>] *On<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Jorge Contreras<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 10:01 AM<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:iana-ipr@nro.net">iana-ipr@nro.net</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Iana-ipr] Revised Community Agreement Draft:<br>
>>>>>>>>> 08-05-2016<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All – attached is a draft of the Community Agreement that Josh<br>
>>>>>>>>> and I<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have collaborated on over the past two days. We believe that<br>
>>>>>>>>> it reflects<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the current requirements of the parties, and submit it for<br>
>>>>>>>>> your review and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A clean version, as well as a marked version against the draft<br>
>>>>>>>>> of<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 07-30-16 (in PDF format) are attached.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note a few items that still need to be completed,<br>
>>>>>>>>> including the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> description of the IANA Names Service, the identities of the<br>
>>>>>>>>> CCG<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> representatives, etc.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge L. Contreras<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contreras Legal Strategy LLC<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1711 Massachusetts Ave. NW, No. 710<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington, DC 20036<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:contreraslegal@att.net">contreraslegal@att.net</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
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