[CWG-DT-Stewardship] Update from the GNSO and draft call for observers for your review

[Avri Doria]

Hi,

Yes, I believe I am saying that requiring everyone to be a member of a
AC/SO/SG/C does not include everyone who may have a stake and may be
interested in the future of names.

I am not saying there isn't a category that they could be shoved into,
but if they don't decide to join, they are still stakeholders.  First
and foremost, one is a stakeholder, then sometimes they join a
stakeholder group.  But even if they belong to no group. they are still
a stakeholder.

avri




On 11-Sep-14 17:10, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> Avri,
> 
> Are you saying that what I proposed does not satisfy this:  "
> transparent process that is open to and inclusive of all stakeholders
> interested in participating in the development of the proposal "?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri
> Doria Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 2:34 PM To:
> cwg-dt-stewardship at icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Update
> from the GNSO and draft call for observers for your review
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think allowing for non-joiners and other exceptions is the only way
> to achieve "open to and inclusive of all stakeholders interested in
> participating in the development of the proposal"
> 
> As the RFP indicates:
> 
>> Proposals should be supported by the broad range of stakeholders 
>> participating in the proposal development process. Proposals should
>> be developed through a transparent process that is open to and
>> inclusive of all stakeholders interested in partici pating in the
>> development of the proposal. In order to help the ICG maintain its
>> light coordination role, all interested and affected parties are
>> strongly encouraged to participate directly in these communi ty
>> processes
> 
> And yes, this can make managing the effort more of challenge.  But I
> think that is part of the task to be solved.  Like all observers,
> they will be able to speak their mind freely with the proscribed
> etiquette for the group.
> 
> avri
> 
> 
> 
> On 10-Sep-14 11:04, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>> I am not yet convinced (but maybe could be) that we should
>> accommodate 'non-joiners' as you suggest.  I am not suggesting that
>> they would formally have to join applicable groups but only that
>> they would be allowed to participate in those groups' processes for
>> this effort.  My concern is that it might greatly complicate the
>> work of the CWG if there are lots of non-joiners participating as
>> individuals while the SGs, Cs, etc. are participating via
>> representatives of commonly situated groups.  How would we manage
>> that efficiently?
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From:
>> cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org 
>> [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri
>> Doria Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:57 AM To: 
>> cwg-dt-stewardship at icann.org Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship]
>> Update from the GNSO and draft call for observers for your review
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 09-Sep-14 18:48, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
>>> I think unaligned observers could be handled in different ways. 
>>> One way is certainly to allow them to directly participate in the
>>>  CWG. Another way would be to have them participate via existing
>>>  organizations.  A third way would be some combination of the
>>> first two.
>> 
>> 
>> I am comfortable with a hybrid approach.
>> 
>> In many ways it is best if these 'outsiders' can be brought into
>> being 'insiders'.  And all sorts of outreach and co-option as you
>> suggest should be done.
>> 
>> But there are also those who are non-joiners or are displeased with
>>  the way our insides are structured, who would prefer to remain 
>> outsiders participating as outsiders.  We need to be sure to be
>> open to them as well.
>> 
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