<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Hello all, </div><div><br></div><div><b>For your review</b>: The meeting notes, action items, recording, and chat transcript are now available on the <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/4cLhAg">Wiki page</a>. I've also uploaded the latest version of the draft charter (circulated after our call) to the document section of the Wiki. </div><div><br></div><div>For easy reading/commenting, I've copied the meeting notes below: </div><div><br></div><div><h2 id="Call%234%2811August%29-Date%3A11August2014%2813%3A00-14%3A00UTC%29" style="margin: 0px; font-size: 20px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.5; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Date: <span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">11 August 2014 (13:00 - 14:00 UTC)</span></h2><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: 1.5;"><br></span></p><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: 1.5;">Attendees</span></p><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><strong>Members</strong>: Tijani Ben Jemaa; Becky Burr; Avri Doria; Stephanie Duchesneau; Chuck Gomes; Julie Hammer; Byron Holland; Alan MacGillvray; Jonathan Robinson; Leon Sanchez. </p><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><strong>Staff</strong>: Grace Abuhamad; Alice Jansen.</p><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> </p><h2 id="Call%234%2811August%29-MeetingNotesandActionItems" style="margin: 30px 0px 0px; font-size: 20px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.5; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Meeting Notes and Action Items</h2><div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><p style="margin: 0px;"><strong><em><br></em></strong></p><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"><strong><em>Meeting Notes / Action Items 11/4:</em></strong></p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"> </p><p class="p5" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"><em>Draft Charter (live edits and review of open items)</em></p><ul style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; "><li class="p5"><p class="p6" style="margin: 0px;">Section I: no edits</p></li><li>Section II: <span style="line-height: 1.4285715;">Approved Julie's suggestion for rewording based on ICG charter</span><ul style="margin: 0px; list-style-type: disc;"><li><strong>Action</strong>: Byron to wordsmith text regarding scope of CWG work ("For greater clarity...") and include examples such as revocation and redelegation. </li><li><strong>Action</strong>: Julie to wordsmith sentence in Goals & Objectives regarding use of word "variants"</li></ul></li><li class="p5"><p class="p6" style="margin: 0px;">Section III: Work plan may be too detailed but reaching out should start sooner rather than later. </p><ul style="margin: 0px; list-style-type: disc;"><li class="p5"><p class="p6" style="margin: 0px;"><strong>Action</strong>: Drafting Team (all) to start working now with respective communities to start getting people involved outside of the ICANN community, as well as reaching out to outside groups like ISOC. </p></li></ul></li><li class="p5"><p class="p6" style="margin: 0px;">Section IV: Decision to keep membership parameters (min. 2; max. 5) with agreement that more numbers does not suggest more influence since there will be no formal voting. With regard to resourcing, DT agrees to have co-chairs communicate output, including resourcing requests, to ICANN senior staff. </p><ul style="margin: 0px; list-style-type: disc;"><li><strong>Action</strong>: Stephanie to wordsmith reference to Section V regarding voting vs. polling. </li><li><strong>Action</strong>: Co-chairs (Jonathan and Byron) to communicate formally the output of the DT, including resourcing, to ICANN senior staff. </li><li><strong>Action</strong>: Allan to wordsmith section on resourcing for inclusion in co-chairs' formal communication. </li></ul></li><li>Section V: approved edits suggested pre-call. None suggested during call. </li><li>Section VI: no edits</li></ul><p class="p6" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"><span style="line-height: 1.4285715;"><br></span></p><p class="p6" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"><em><span style="line-height: 1.4285715;">Deadlines</span></em></p><ul style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; "><li class="p6">Aim to submit charter to all SO/ACs by 13 August at the latest for consideration. </li><li class="p6">All edits and wordsmithing (see Actions for Byron, Julie, Stephanie, and Allan) due by <em><strong>23:59 UTC on 11 August.</strong></em> </li><li class="p6"><strong>Action</strong>: Grace to send out updated redline by 01:00 UTC on 12 August. </li><li class="p6"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><em><strong>Final sign-off by 23:59 UTC on 12 August</strong></em></span>. </li></ul><p class="p6" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"> </p><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px;"><span style="font-size: 20px; line-height: 1.5;">Recording</span></p></div><p style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">The recording for today's call is available here: <a href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p3kda36gdpz/" class="external-link" rel="nofollow" style="color: rgb(59, 115, 175); text-decoration: none;">https://icann.adobeconnect.com/p3kda36gdpz/</a></p><h2 id="Call%234%2811August%29-ChatTranscript" style="margin: 30px 0px 0px; font-size: 20px; font-weight: normal; line-height: 1.5; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">Chat Transcript</h2><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Jonathan Robinson:Hello all. Dialling in now.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Top of the hour for me too</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Agreed, it is top of the hour</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Leon Sanchez:hello everybody</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:sounds like we shuld finish today. and make the decsion to send it on.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Avri, that would be great if we could!</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):If we dont, we would likely need another call by Wednesday</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):But, lets assume we are going to get it done today!</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:Byron, now that is incentive to finish today!</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:Sounds like a good chapeau stmt. </p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:That sounds good.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Something like “For greater certainty, issues related to naming policy e.g. delegation, redelegation or revocation of ccTLDs, RAA related policy issues etc. are not within the scope of the CWG.” </p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Agree with Avri</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Will do - thanks</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Happy with this suggestion but don't think anything additional needs to be included in the charter now</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:i agree with both Chuck and Julie, as i did on the list.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Chuck Gomes:I am okay with not having it in the charter or simply communicating that steps have been initiated.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Leon Sanchez:different options?</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):"Options" works for me</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Good catch Julie</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Options works for me too.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Agree with Byron on this</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):OK - we can give guidance but not be absolute</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Sounds fine</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:there is budgeting to consider</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Agreed</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Allan MacGillivray:I can do the drafting on resouircing</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:for some people numbers are an on-principle thing. i agree no voting.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Also agree no voting</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Agree - no voting. Polling is of value, but that is it</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Chuck Gomes:Informal polling is fine.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Good point...so 7 is more challenging than 5 for GAC?</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Chuck Gomes:Do we need a minimum of 2? That is desirable so there is backup but what if a group cannot get 2 volunteers.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):yes, that is what i was referring too. Works for me re text on polling</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:test: ....voting for decsion making, but infomral polling may be used as long as it is used as an indicator, but not as part of the decsion making process. see sction ...</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Tijani, Marika has already corrected this</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Stephanie Duchesneau (RySG):i can take that</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Grace Abuhamad (Guest):Of course. I can send a new redline right after this call.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:I will do mine immediately after this call</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Stephanie Duchesneau (RySG):okay by me</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Allan MacGillivray:I can do that as well.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Thank you</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Is staff going to produce the red-line version?</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Avri Doria:Sounds to me like we are coming out of this meeting with provisional agreement on the latest plus the agreed upon changes.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Chuck Gomes:Good work everyone.</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Action item...spell my name correctly:=)</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):No worries...I 've been called worse</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Grace Abuhamad:Thank you :)</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Byron Holland (ccNSO):Good work Jonathan! THanks all</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Julie Hammer:Thanks everyone!</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Stephanie Duchesneau (RySG):thanks jonathan, thanks all!</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Allan MacGillivray:Good by</p><p class="p1" style="margin: 10px 0px 0px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.047618865966797px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "> Leon Sanchez:thanks everyone</p></div></body></html>