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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreed. Good points of principle from Tijani but this may be a sensible tweak to the document. Jonathan.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Julie Hammer<br><b>Sent:</b> 15 August 2014 00:34<br><b>To:</b> Tijani Benjemaa<br><b>Cc:</b> cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Final Draft Charter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tijani,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Your point is a valid one and well made. In general, I do agree with you. Having said that, I have a suspicion that, in this specific case, a little wordsmithing now may well avert objections and criticism of wording which may delay the approval of this document downstream.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers, Julie<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 15 Aug 2014, at 8:29 am, Tijani BEN JEMAA <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn">tijani.benjemaa@planet.tn</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>Why it is crucial to have the same wording as the ICG one???</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>We agreed on a charter after several iterations of drafting and update. We fixed a deadline for last last update, and this deadline is passed. The final document had the full consensus of the drafting team. There is no reason we modify it.</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>If we continue like that, we will never finish modifying our charter.</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>So, my inclination is to keep the already agreed text without modification.</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>Tijani</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#365F91'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>-----Message d'origine-----<br>De : <a href="mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] De l</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>a part de Byron Holland<br>Envoyé : jeudi 14 août 2014 17:15<br>À : Julie Hammer; Avri Doria<br>Cc : <a href="mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>Objet : Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Final Draft Charter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>I was about to hit 'send' to circulate the draft charter to my council. But seeing these comments, and being in agreement with them, I have taken the liberty of replacing our paragraph under 'Relationship to ICANN Accountability Review Process' with the words used by the ICG. I have attached both a 'track changes' version and a 'clean' version. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>But now I must really send this out to my council.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Byron<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>From: <a href="mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>] On Behalf Of Julie Hammer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Sent: August-14-14 10:31 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>To: Avri Doria<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Cc: <a href="mailto:cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-dt-stewardship@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Subject: Re: [CWG-DT-Stewardship] Final Draft Charter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Hi Avri,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Thanks for the feedback and sorry to hear you've been getting a hard time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Re Milton's comments about our wording, I agree that the ICG Charter is essentially saying the same thing that we are, but probably more eloquently. If there is strong feeling about our language, I would not object to using the same (probably better language) as the ICG in our CWG charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Cheers, Julie<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>On 14 Aug 2014, at 11:54 pm, Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>On 13-Aug-14 10:46, Allan MacGillivray wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Milton Mueller has even characterized it as being 'impressive'<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> <<a href="http://www.internetgovernance.org/">http://www.internetgovernance.org/</a>>. Congratulations to everyone who<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> worked on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>Perhaps, but he is slamming me for it now. Indicating that we missed a chance to link the CWG to the Transparency work.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> I am wondering why this statement on accountability seems to assume<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> that there is "no linkage" between ICANN accountability and IANA<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> accountability, when, in fact, there is.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> "Any linkages between the work of the CWG on the IANA transition and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> the broader ICANN Accountability Review Process with regard to ICANN<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> policy are outside the scope of this group's work. Accountability for<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> the administration of the IANA functions (i.e., implementation and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> operational accountability), however, is properly within the scope of<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> this working group."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> The ICG charter handled this relationship in a much better way:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> " The IANA stewardship transition process is taking place alongside a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> parallel and related process on enhancing ICANN accountability.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> While maintaining the accountability of Internet identifier governance<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> is central to both processes, this group's scope is focused on the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> arrangements required for the continuance of IANA functions in an<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> accountable and widely accepted manner after the expiry of the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> NTIA-ICANN contract. Nevertheless, the two processes are interrelated<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> and interdependent and should appropriately coordinate their work."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>I have argued:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> I think they both say a similar thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> - the greater ICANN accountability is seperate - accountability<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> related to IANA is in scope<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> On 13-Aug-14 17:32, Dan Krimm wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>>> So, if one accepts as true the notion that each jurisdiction's<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>>> results will affect the other jurisdiction significantly, then even<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>>> if the specific working groups have narrow scope of authority and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>>> jurisdiction, they still ought to be talking to each other along the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>>> way, perhaps cross-pollinating each other with ideas and monitoring<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>>> each others' progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> I do. I think that making IANA accountability part of the CWG's work<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> it accepts the challenge of coordinating them. And maybe even going<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> further than passive coordination.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> Another point, is that IANA accountability is what counts in this<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> case, and while unlikely that some entity other than ICANN will end up<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> ultimately responsible for IANA, the accountability requirements for<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> that function stand separate and should apply to whatever entity ends<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> up responsible, next year or in 10 years. As such this group could<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> come up with requirements that do not immediately fall inside whatever<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> it is we end up doing about ICANN accountability - remember the note<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> we just sent about the ICANN accountability processes seeming rigged.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> This is a good topic for discussion, and should be brought up in the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> GNSO council discussions by our council members (myself included) if<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> we continue to find it problematic.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>and repsonse from Milton<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> The statement of the ICG is even stronger than Dan suggests. We said:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> "the two processes are interrelated and interdependent and should<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> appropriately coordinate their work."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> This is not just "talking to each other" and "cross pollinating, it<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> suggests that they are interdependent and thus should coordinate. An<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> extreme example of such interdependency and coordination would be to<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> not complete the transition until certain commitments are made on the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> broader accountability process. I am afraid the CWG charter sets up<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> the false notion that the two things are completely detached and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> separate processes, which is exactly what ICANN wants and exactly what<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> advocates of accountability don't want.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> I don't understand why Avri is not seeing this and offering apologias<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>> for the oversight in the CWG charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>avri<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>CWG-DT-Stewardship mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><a href="mailto:CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org">CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'>CWG-DT-Stewardship mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><a href="mailto:CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org">CWG-DT-Stewardship@icann.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas'><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cwg-dt-stewardship</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width=1180 style='width:885.0pt' noshade style='color:#909090' align=center></span></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 11.25pt 0cm 6.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.avast.com/"><span style='color:purple;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="http://static.avast.com/emails/avast-mail-stamp.png"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#3D4D5A'>Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.avast.com/"><span style='color:purple'>Antivirus avast!</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>est active.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>