[DT-F] Design Team F kickoff

Gomes, Chuck cgomes at verisign.com
Wed Apr 8 13:32:20 UTC 2015


Very good point on the RZM acronym Jaap.  We ran into the same issue in DT-M.  For DT-M we decided to use RZM for the Root Zone Manager and refer to Root Zone Maintainer using its full name or just Maintainer if the context makes it clear.

Chuck

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From: cwg-dtf-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-dtf-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Jaap Akkerhuis
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 5:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [DT-F] Design Team F kickoff

 Jordan Carter writes:

 >
 > There's one thing that might be an elephant in this room or might not -  > which is the possibility or otherwise of the RZM being ICANN/IANA.

I assume you mean hear Root Zone Maintainer and not Root Zone Management? The latter is something I think about when seeing the RZM mni=emonic.

Whatever we and up writing, we should at least spell out what we mean.

	jaap

 >
 > Without having discussed it with those who are actively working on these  > things, I think a line of business restriction on ICANN or IANA from ever  > doing that job themselves should be part of the transition plan.
 >
 > Is it possible to link through to any content that could give us guidance  > on the *output* we need to deliver from this DT? Or is that the framework  > we need now to build (agreeing that doing so in 4 days isn't doable)?
 >
 > cheers
 > Jordan
 >
 >
 > On 8 April 2015 at 10:05, David Conrad <david.conrad at icann.org> wrote:
 >
 > > Milton,
 > >
 > > David's proposed principles are a nice starting point but are quite  > > generic and I don't see the value of calling for things like "accuracy" -  > > no one will argue for inaccuracy and unless we can propose a framework that  > > we believe improves accuracy, stability, etc. I am not sure of the value of  > > such an exercise.
 > >
 > >
 > > I had thought the idea behind the framework was that it would come up with  > > the mechanisms by which the root management system could  evolve, including  > > such areas as accuracy, stability, etc., instead of having us come up with  > > that evolution (in 3 days and counting).  This isn't suggesting that anyone  > > would argue for inaccuracy, rather it is suggesting that it would be good  > > to have a process by which the existing system can be improved.
 > >
 > > My understanding of the call for principles was to make sure we were all  > > on the same page with regards to what we wanted to address in terms of the  > > characteristics of the post-NTIA root management system.  I don't have a  > > strong opinion on that matter, but figured it might be helpful.
 > >
 > > I suggest that we continue working on this beyond the 4 days and start  > > adjusting our framework to the proposed model that the CWG seems to be  > > converging on.
 > >
 > >
 > > A step before that would be to actually have a framework, no?
 > >
 > > Regards,
 > > -drc
 > >
 > >
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 > Jordan Carter
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 > Chief Executive
 > *InternetNZ*
 >
 > 04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)  > jordan at internetnz.net.nz  > Skype: jordancarter  >  > *A better world through a better Internet *  >  > --001a11473ba4d9250605132a1c38  > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1  > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  >  > <div dir=3D"ltr">There&#39;s one thing that might be an elephant in this ro=  > om or might not - which is the possibility or otherwise of the RZM being IC=  > ANN/IANA.<div><br></div><div>Without having discussed it with those who are=  >  actively working on these things, I think a line of business restriction o=  > n ICANN or IANA from ever doing that job themselves should be part of the t=  > ransition plan.</div><div><br></div><div>Is it possible to link through to =  > any content that could give us guidance on the *output* we need to deliver =  > from this DT? Or is that the framework we need now to build (agreeing that =  > doing so in 4 days isn&#39;t doable)?<br><br></div><div>cheers</div><div>Jo=
 > rdan</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=  > "gmail_quote">On 8 April 2015 at 10:05, David Conrad <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=  > <a href=3D"mailto:david.conrad at icann.org" target=3D"_blank">david.conrad at ic=
 > ann.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=  > "margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=  > =3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px;font-family:Calibr=
 > i,sans-serif"><div>Milton,</div><span class=3D""><div><br></div><span><bloc=
 > kquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0 0 5"=  > ><div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"M=  > soNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
 > f;font-size:11pt">David&rsquo;s proposed principles are a nice starting poi=  > nt but are quite generic and I don&rsquo;t see the value of calling  >  for things like &ldquo;accuracy&rdquo; &ndash; no one will argue for inacc=  > uracy and unless we can propose a framework that we believe improves accura=  > cy, stability, etc. I am not sure of the value of such an exercise.</span><=  > /p></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div><br></div></span><div>I had t=  > hought the idea behind the framework was that it would come up with the mec=  > hanisms by which the root management system could &nbsp;evolve, including s=  > uch areas as accuracy, stability, etc., instead of having us come up with t=  > hat evolution (in 3 days and counting).&nbsp; This isn&#39;t suggesting tha=  > t anyone would argue for inaccuracy, rather it is suggesting that it would =  > be good to have a process by which the existing system can be improved.</di=  > v><div><br></div><div>My understanding of the call for principles was to ma=  > ke sure we were all on the same page with regards to what we wanted to addr=  > ess in terms of the characteristics of the post-NTIA root management system=  > .&nbsp; I don&#39;t have a strong opinion on that matter, but figured it mi=  > ght be helpful.</div><span class=3D""><div><br></div><span><blockquote styl=  > e=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0 0 5"><div><div =  > lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=  > span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size=
 > :11pt">I suggest that we continue working on this beyond the 4 days and sta=  > rt adjusting our framework to the proposed model  >  that the CWG seems to be converging on.</span></p></div></div></div></bloc=
 > kquote></span><div><br></div></span><div>A step before that would be to act=  > ually have a framework, no?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>-dr=
 > c</div><div><br></div></div>
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 > <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div cla=  > ss=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jordan Carter=  > <br><br>Chief Executive <br><b>InternetNZ</b><br><br>04 495 2118 (office) |=  >  +64 21 442 649 (mob)<br><a href=3D"mailto:jordan at internetnz.net.nz" target=  > =3D"_blank">jordan at internetnz.net.nz</a> <br>Skype: jordancarter<br><br><i>=  > A better world through a better Internet&nbsp;</i><br><br></div></div></div=
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