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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:15.6pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Please find the MP3 recording for the CWG Framework of Operating Principles call held <span style='color:black'>on </span>Tuesday, 10 May 2016 at 18:00 UTC at: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#111111'><a href="http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03ZqpsuetVibIDfcOs-2Ft0v2JJJ9CycmrKz2pT34p5uE-2FoSv-2Fil6Ig3kxlMe8-2FPnfrEYPTyA-3D_nEX-2FaOijqgcJlSz5SkmueJu3tRbmaDiuX89gT35tStEeSHP9whdoceObpMxYsFLQddiMZpQjIv8dk6BsBGSJXH7VWN4SGLCJgbGKCk6E-2FTErjF4OKNQt65Dk9NF54IJ9kQpmDNySj7bbNz9G4dXi5BgbCZotTx8KNfyeB0z00f8KsMfETeTNKd7vy2kKI7tttQUIwid4NAhxXgT3nZYwmgetkr5EHvE4rAmjcZjUKD23wUIRtmGnYRM8F-2Fal5UIDWIm0SvqC-2Fw7dJRSVSLConeZFwjZqSZBPb18B-2Fwda9MyazIkt2Hx7Y6aZfyitScuba-2BtsoaPiI-2Fkn3rKYgv2noIjix9NWP96kB0PzJIigNiFZrELiEtCkGw8XKKxIQP5Mrn0V07abb5rcyQt-2BOqZmbNOVzAnQ1A13NPQ9GIxGkzkYmgtkkAC7-2Fql7kr4cfdFFXtOUvvbtST7-2FJGdKdDes43qk44xfX0klF0ucSTfXkOcv-2Fodg4SG3JQxhjjY5XsRF"><span style='color:#0066B2'>http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-principles-10may16-en.mp3</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>On page: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may">http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may</a><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/</span></a> <span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Attendees:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cheryl Langdon-Orr<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>John Berard - (Co-Chair)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Becky Burr - (Co-Chair)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Avri Doria<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jim Galvin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alan Greenberg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Apologies: </span></u><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Annebeth Lange</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>ICANN staff:<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Mary Wong<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Steve Chan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>David Tait<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Bart Boswinkel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:white'>Terri Agnew</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Web page : </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/ccwg-framework.htm"><span lang=FR>http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/ccwg-framework.htm</span></a></span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Terri Agnew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>GNSO Secretariat <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>Adobe Chat Transcript for </span></u><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Tuesday, 10 May 2016<o:p></o:p></span></u></b></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the Framework of Operating Principles Cross Community Working Group meeting on the 10th May 2016<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> john:sorry, hit enter too soon, Berard<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> john:say something so I can confirm i am connected<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Hi John thank you for this, I will update the line name<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:Somebody is not on mute and is typing.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Avri sent me an email saying she would be late due to another call.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Cheryl, sorry about the time - if it helps, it's 2 a.m. here in Singapore!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:CONGRATS BECKY!!!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:apologies, need to figure out how to turn the mic on. thanks everyone.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Becky, private AC chat you with directions how to activate<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan:I can see it as well<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:I do not see in the AdobeConnect but I do have a separate copy open locally.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:Not here!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:likewise, I don't see it in Adobe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:you may need to update your Adobe connect plug in's with this link: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/icannactest">http://tinyurl.com/icannactest</a> Ensure all 3 steps pass. On the fourth step, install the add-on. This will run adobe connect outside of the web browser. Adobe connect prefers Firefox browser.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:I now see it in Adobe.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Happy to reinforce the language.... I think it is a poivotsl point<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:This could also be re-inforced by combining this notion with stonger langauge around need for internal rules for a group to be agreed up before the actual work starts<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:@Bart, yes, absolutely. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:In that regard, this group will also need to consider the feedback that seems to indicate little support for more formal operational rules n the Framework, but to include any such that are necessary in the Charter for the CCWG in question.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:Yes, and their is a difernce between the CCWG and CWG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Terri Agnew:Welcome Avri<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Avri Doria:thanks Terri, sorry i am late.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Perfect Mary Some can be To be used unless otherwise ... ... ... in the Charter etc., <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Becky Burr:I agree John - I don't feel the need to do that<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Agree Alan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):YES Jim thus our use of Principles nd Guidelines... <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:ORiginally when this group started there were two outstanding core principles for a CCWG: one charter explicitly adopted by two or more SO/AC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel: and the fumnal product wouldbe approved by the chartering organisations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Future MAY bring new Interpretations of such Frameworks<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Some of the comments on implementatin are reflected starting at the bottom of Page 10 of he Tabular Summary.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:It could be if charterd by the chartering organisations to do so<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:at the time of adoption of the recomendation<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I AGree with you Avri this is essential<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:AS AVRi says it couldbe part of the recommendations to the chartering organisations<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):The work from te Implementation WG was pretty clear on this John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): AAnd in the current CWG/CCWG we have activly ensured tht we have close input from ley people from the WG's to work with Implementation <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:An IRT can (should?) be separate from the CCWG; it's just composed partly of intersted CCWG memebrs. So a CCWG can (should?) be closed once its recommendations are completed/adopted.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Note also the RySG comments that (per Cheryl) the recommendations on implementation from the Policy & Implementation WG may be worth considering.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> John Berard:is there a term of art for a WG going into suspended animation?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:AFAIK, no <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:It may choose to remain in place pending adoption by the Board and implementation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Not policy, at least, not policy that is within the remit of a SO :)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:That assumes the chair and co-chair remain active<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:as soon as a wg clsoes they are in-active<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Fair point Bart... but then we ned to replace them with competant alterntes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Alan Greenberg:I have to drop off now. Good meeting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:Going back to Jim's point and the drift of John's argument<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Thanks Alan<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:Sevearl commenters seemed to think we need more clarity..<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:It looks like there will be a Helsinki session.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone great progress ... good call ... Talk soon, catch up soon to plan for Helsinki. docs soon aafter some of you gather in Amsterdam please...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:WHen will we meet again?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:@mary thanks!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):YES do meeting in 14 days<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:9 pm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:It's 2 a.m. in Singapore an 4 a.m. in Sydney<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:that is fine<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:For 1800 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):0400 is fine for me<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:21.UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Mary Wong:OK<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel: is fine as well<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):HAPPY with 0400<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Jim Galvin:I'm in no position to complain. Take it to the mailing list. :-)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Bart Boswinkel:Bye all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> David Tait:Thanks all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Steve Chan:thanks all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye for now then Thanks John Becky et.al.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></b></p></div></body></html>