<div dir="ltr">Milton:<div><br></div><div>I'll respond inline:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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</span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-CA">That the functions currently provided for in the NTIA/IANA contract continue to be performed in a secure, efficient, and stable manner.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></span></span><u></u><span lang="EN-CA">That there be an effective replacement for the accountability formerly provided by the NTIA contracting process and US government oversight.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><font color="#990000">Taking my coordinator hat off for a moment, I tend to agree that these are the two most basic objectives of our entire project. I might also add replacing the RZM final check that NTIA provided. The "Objectives" document was sent to me by Allan McGillivray and (coordinator hat back on) I wanted to put into the stream of conversation and let the reactions to it come from the group. </font></div><div><font color="#990000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#990000">(Coordinator hat off) I found that list of Objectives interesting, but I felt it represented a commercial wish-list on the part of registries of what they hoped to get from IANA, rather than objectives tied directly to our mandate from the NTIA. I don't say that to exclude it from discussion. An element of oversight could well include improvement and evolution of functionality, rather than merely guarding against a degradation of performance. On the other hand, I think (hat still off) we need to be careful about creating an oversight body that could function as a trade association for registries.</font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p><span lang="EN-CA"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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prepare a consensus response to the ICG RFP. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I think the list of variables might be used as a checklist to review specific proposals, but this exercise has its limits. The number of “Variables” is potentially
infinite and you will never capture them all. You have to have specific proposals and the idea that a final, acceptable proposal will jump out at us from gigantic piles of variables is not realistic.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font color="#990000">I did intend the variables to be essentially a checklist or "yardstick" (meterstick for our metric colleagues, though I think the idiom fails), i.e., any proposal has to deal with these issues/variables to be reasonably complete. I think the list of <i>important </i>variables is far from infinite (or gigantic) -- that said, this list is a first draft and I'm happy to see it evolve. I can put this in Google Drive fairly quickly.</font> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The pros and cons table is more useful, because it presumes specific structural options. However, again I find the format somewhat prejudicial, in that factors
that are absolutely critical, such as accountability or its absence, have not been listed or given their proper weight in relation to other things. Also some of the cons are a bit prejudicial, such as the claim that registries may not be willing to fund a
names IANA when in fact they are already funding it, just implicitly and non-transparently.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font color="#990000">Again, this is a first draft document and can evolve if others contribute to it. As more voices are added, it will tend to reflect more viewpoints -- items can be added or re-emphasized (or de-emphasized). I'm not sure I would say that anything is "prejudicial" -- these are postulates to be tested. One stakeholder's pro may be another stakeholder's con. </font></div><div><font color="#990000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#990000">Finally, I would say that the most important drafting is the drafting of proposals. These documents are intended to provide guidance (the Variables) and commentary (the Pro's/Con's/Questions) as we work toward our Main Goal. We shouldn't get obsessed with sharpening our tools when our objective is to build a boat.</font></div><div><font color="#990000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#990000">Greg </font></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 3, 2014 3:14 AM<span class=""><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-RFP3] Coordination of Subgroup 3<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. As an initial matter, I would like to suggest that we have a conference call of this subgroup on Thursday, November 6 from 14:00 to 15:30 UTC. I don't think there is enough time before Tuesday's call of the CWG to have a subgroup.
If you cannot participate at this time, please respond ASAP. If the time doesn't work, we'll go to a Doodle poll, but I think a call of this subgroup this week is critical to moving forward in a timely fashion.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2. I have created a draft document with a proposed list of topics that need to be addressed by any proposal, along with several variables for each topic. I think it is important to identify the topics any proposal needs to address before
we move on to drafting any particular proposal(s). A great deal of this document is based on proposals drafted by Allan McGillivray, for which I am exceedingly grateful. I also tried to draw on the active discussions on the general list up to this time.
This document is only intended as a starting point, and can be put up in Google Drive and/or a wiki by staff or by myself.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">3. I have also provided a draft document with pro's and con's and questions relating to one of the key topics -- the status of the IANA Operating Function -- and three potential variables (IANA stays as is, IANA becomes a subsidiary of
ICANN, IANA is independent of ICANN). Again, this document reflects contributions by Allan to a very great extent, is only intended as a starting point, and can be put into Google Drive and/or a wiki.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. Allan also prepared a draft document of Objectives. I have included this document as well.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">4. For clarity please use "Subject" lines that reflect the contents of your email. Please start new threads or rename threads if you are going off in a new direction or diving into details on a particular subtopic, rather than merely replying
to a general email like this one. That will make it much easier to capture ideas without too much hunting.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I look forward to comments and discussions of these documents and based on these documents (Of course, these documents do not reflect the views of my employer (nor do Allan's contributions reflect the views of his employer).)<u></u><u></u></p>
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