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Hi,<br>
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This is what I meant by separability. That it can be moved in need
be, not that it needed to be moved now as part of the transition.
The power NTIA has is to move it to a different contractor, that did
not mean they must do so.<br>
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avri<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04-Nov-14 14:48, Milton L Mueller
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<pre wrap="">If we agree that it must be movable it's fine. It's when Paul Kane says it's important to keep it within ICANN that I get concerned.
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Subject: Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction for an IANA subsidiary?
Maybe we are talking past each other Milton. I agree that the bundle of IANA "functions" must be a stand-alone/segregated from other ICANN activities in order to be moveable - but that doesn't require a separate legal entity does it?
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Date: Monday, November 3, 2014 at 4:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction for an IANA subsidiary?
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=kNNtm5xxQvyRBwQA96RBE_d1K8EO_NzPqPTBlfK_hgY&s=ERNwZr9ae2WdJsHy-cSqGxHFr1Oq4QLw-s5q4quUTpI&e="><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=kNNtm5xxQvyRBwQA96RBE_d1K8EO_NzPqPTBlfK_hgY&s=ERNwZr9ae2WdJsHy-cSqGxHFr1Oq4QLw-s5q4quUTpI&e=></a>> wrote:
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It would be appropriate to emphasise the importance of keeping IANA as a
separate/independent/fire-walled service unit within ICANN.
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I don't consider this acceptable, nor do many others. If you can't move the names IANA to another entity, there is no accountability of the most basic type.
Isn't it possible to keep it within ICANN and still be able to move it when the need arises? I would assume that was what
On the jurisdiction issue, I am flexible, but let's make it clear: when you say you don't want a separable IANA, you are saying yo don't want real accountability. If IANA is locked into ICANN's structure and there is no NTIA, we are moving backwards.
It really depends and i will suggest that we look at the merits of all these options in totality. We shouldn't just get locked in on just one route. I for one thinks ICANN as IANA operator can be accountable without necessarily taking IANA completely out of ICANN. Nevertheless, irrespective of what i think, we should look at all the options in an holistic manner.
A document has been shared on the summary of discussions so far and i think its a good starting point for this group.
Cheers!
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