<p dir="ltr">I am not Paul but I saw this: </p>
<p dir="ltr"> separate/independent/fire-walled </p>
<p dir="ltr">Whatever that means seem to be inline with your line of thought. So if i may rephrase to say....it's important to keep IANA within ICANN but separate/independent/fire-walled(and will add...Movable ;) ).</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers!<br>
sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction for an IANA subsidiary?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-RFP3] Is there is a more suitable legal jurisdiction for an IANA subsidiary?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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I don't consider this acceptable, nor do many others. If you can't move the names IANA to another entity, there is no accountability of the most basic type.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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A document has been shared on the summary of discussions so far and i think its a good starting point for this group.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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