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<DIV>I agree. It’s everytime helpful to talk to the ones participating in the
existing process.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">I’m curious
to learn how many NTIA staff is involved in the IANA stewardship and to what
extent (1 for 1/2 hour/week...?). It may give us an indication re the
stewardship ”operation” in future.<BR><BR>Best
regards<BR><BR>Wolf-Ulrich<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=avri@acm.org
href="mailto:avri@acm.org">Avri Doria</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:08 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=cwg-rfp3@icann.org
href="mailto:cwg-rfp3@icann.org">cwg-rfp3@icann.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CWG-RFP3] Coordination of Subgroup 3</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Hi,<BR><BR>Perhaps
I am being simplistic, but having more information never really hurts, does
it?<BR><BR>If we learn it is as we thought. Great!<BR>If we learn even one
wrinkle that or complicating factor we did not know about, all the
better?<BR><BR>avri<BR><BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 06-Nov-14 05:07, Donna Austin wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:35B1B5D6EF50FA4584F57D3B7393C0B123DFCCEA@MELEX01
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I agree with you, NTIA would not have announced transition if they had concerns, but I do agree with Kieren that we need to know what NTIA does.
As a former bureaucrat, I am very conscious that NTIA would most likely have built in layers of administrative processes and guidelines as Kieren suggests in his most recent email. I think it’s important we understand what those are.
Thanks,
Donna
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From: Milton L Mueller [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mailto:mueller@syr.edu</A>]
Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 11:51 AM
To: Donna Austin; 'Kieren McCarthy'; 'Milton Mueller'
Cc: 'RFP3'
Subject: RE: [CWG-RFP3] Coordination of Subgroup 3
Donna:
Asking NTIA what it does is one thing. (Anyone who wants to can do that.)
Asking NTIA “if it would have any concerns” about any particular transition proposal, which Kieren also proposed, is not something we should do. It betrays a complete misunderstanding of the nature of this process, imho.
--MM
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Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2014 2:38 PM
To: Kieren McCarthy; Milton Mueller
Cc: RFP3
Subject: Re: [CWG-RFP3] Coordination of Subgroup 3
I think there is value in understanding what NTIA does, and having them inform us of the those details would have value. I appreciate David Conrad’s expertise in this area, but from an administrative and potentially replicative perspective, I support Kieren’s suggestion that we ask “NTIA what it does”.
Thanks,
Donna
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From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org">cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org</A><A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org</A> [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org</A>] On Behalf Of Kieren McCarthy
Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 9:18 AM
To: Milton Mueller
Cc: RFP3
Subject: Re: [CWG-RFP3] Coordination of Subgroup 3
So it strikes me that the obvious question is: let's ask the NTIA what it does and ask it if it would have any concerns if the role simply disappeared.
Kieren
On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Milton Mueller <<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:mueller.syr.edu@gmail.com">mueller.syr.edu@gmail.com</A><A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:mueller.syr.edu@gmail.com">mailto:mueller.syr.edu@gmail.com</A>> wrote:
I agree with David Conrad here. There is no need for the authorizer step.
Milton L Mueller
Professor, Syracuse School of Information Studies
On Nov 4, 2014, at 13:05, David Conrad <<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:david.conrad@icann.org">david.conrad@icann.org</A><A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:david.conrad@icann.org">mailto:david.conrad@icann.org</A>> wrote:
Robert,
On Nov 4, 2014, at 3:33 AM, Robert Guerra <<A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</A><A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org</A>> wrote:
- RZF need to be reviewed for technical accuracy
For clarification, currently, the IANA Function Operator (IFO) does not have access to the Root Zone File. The Root Zone File is generated by Verisign prior to signing and distributing to the Root Server Operators (I believe -- I do not know the actual processes used by Verisign for sure, but I can make some educated guesses).
What the IFO does does see is the specific change request prior to it being submitted to NTIA for authorization. There are a number of technical checks performed by the IFO prior to allowing that change request to proceed. I believe those technical checks are documented at <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="https://www.iana.org/help/nameserver-requirements">https://www.iana.org/help/nameserver-requirements</A> (more generally, <A class=moz-txt-link-freetext href="https://www.iana.org/domains/root/help">https://www.iana.org/domains/root/help</A> might be a useful resource).
In the past Verisign also performed a set of technical checks (not exactly sure what they were). I suspect, but do not know for certain, they continue to do those checks.
- An authorizer process step exists now . In a post NTIA solution, something similar is needed. There is a need to evaluate if a single or multiple authorizers are needed as well as cost that might entail.
Speaking entirely personally, it isn't clear to me that an authorizer step is actually necessary since in practice, by the time the request gets to the authorizer, the affected parties are aware of the change and they'd have raised concerns if they had any. However whether an authorizer step is needed is, of course, for the community to decide.
Regards,
-drc
(ICANN CTO, but speaking for myself only. Really.)
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