<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Kurt<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I see where you’re coming from now. <font face="Calibri">.......</font><br></span></font></p><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></font>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> The contract NTIA awarded _<i><span style="font-style:italic">requires</span></i>_ ICANN to maintain the separation. The contract is
_<i><span style="font-style:italic">going away</span></i>_. Without some kind of new oversight authority or contracting authority, there is nothing to maintain this separation.
</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>A good summary of the task at hand which also implies the following:<br><br></div><div>- That there is a form of separation currently existing<br></div><div>- This form of separation is made possible by the contract<br></div><div>- A process/mechanism that ensure current separation is maintained is the required task.<br><br></div><div>Hopefully we can always come back to Milton's statement above to remind ourselves about the task at hand.<br><br></div><div>Thanks<br><br></div><div>Cheers!<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:32 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Milton L Mueller; RFP3<span class=""><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [CWG-RFP3] Option 5 - New IANA Entity<u></u><u></u></span></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Milton:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I have a few points:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">First, your argument, that that the CWG should consider different separation models because it is not explicitly excluded, is not sound. If the criteria are explicit (and
I agree with you that they are) then we cannot argue for and should not be adding criteria because it has not been excluded. I.e., your statement that "'don't have a separate IANA entity' isn't among [the existing criteria]" is not a reason for adding criteria.
By that reason, we could include anything. The argument would be more powerful of the criteria were not explicit but they are explicit. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Also, there is a current contractual requirement for the separation of the policy and operations duties and it is satisfied. The NTIA included that term AND awarded the
contract to ICANN because the NTIA was satisfied through their due diligence that the separation could be maintained within ICANN. ICANN has agreed with that term and is in compliance with the contract or the NTIA would not be relinquishing its oversight role.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Since separation is a requirement, it COULD be the subject of oversight: "has ICANN maintained separation between the policy and operations?"<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Finally, Vint said: "keep it simple." There is real peril in broadening the criteria. Most simply, this is a discussion of IANA Oversight Transition, not IANA Transition. There
is a time for the discussion of the separation model but this isn't it. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:41 AM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This is just wrong, Donna. The criteria the NTIA set are quite explicit and open and “don’t have a separate IANA
entity” isn’t among them. More generally, as a principle, we should do that we think is best within the criteria, and not try to second-guess what the NTIA wants, or claim to be channeling the inner wishes of the NTIA. That makes for a distorted dialogue.</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span></font></span><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><font color="purple"><span style="color:purple">cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org</span></font></a><span> </span>[mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-" target="_blank">cwg-</a><a href="mailto:rfp3-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><font color="purple"><span style="color:purple">rfp3-bounces@icann.org</span></font></a>]<span> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-AU">I have some concerns that we’re potentially over-reaching here in terms of what we’ve been asked to
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-AU">I don’t believe the NTIA is going to accept a proposal which calls for a separate IANA entity. In my
mind, the NTIA announcement was evidence that they are happy with the current arrangement and how ICANN manages the IANA function – what they have asked the multi-stakeholder community to do is develop a mechanism that replaces the NTIA role in the process,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d" lang="EN-AU">Donna</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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