<div dir="ltr">Milton,<div><br></div><div>Thanks. Please consider these Strawmen to be "modular" or "mix and match," rather than unitary or indivisible proposals. We could certainly end up taking certain elements from Strawman 1 and others from Strawman 2 or 3. So I encourage you to consider each of the elements at least as much (if not more than) you consider any particular "Strawman" as a stand-alone proposal. In other words, I think the "bucket" approach, rather than the "association" approach is already contemplated here.</div><div><br></div><div>For that reason, I believe that the most useful document is actually the "Strawman Matrix" which lays out the alternatives for each element side-by-side. </div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">OK, thanks, I did miss that, but that is because the 3 year term you mention only appears in Strawman 1 proposal
under the part “</span></font><b><font size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-weight:bold">Documentation to Replace NTIA Contract”
</span></font></b><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> and not in the others, and I wasn’t too interested in Strawman 1!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I still don’t see where you say that for Strawman 2 and 3, although way down in 5f you talk about a 3 year review
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So one problem with the strawman format at this stage is that the association of certain features (e.g., renewable
contract) with certain structures is somewhat arbitrary. It miught be better to simplify the structural options, and consider them buckets where we might put a variety of different methods or functions.
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Shatan [mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:35 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Milton L Mueller<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [CWG-RFP3] Proposed Agenda for Wednesday 12 November Meeting<u></u><u></u></font></div></div><p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think you are missing something, which is not to say that these proposals (none of which are "mine" in a proprietary or endorsement sense) are perfect or fully featured.
They are intended to be Strawmen and to evolve through the CWG process albeit on a very truncated timeframe. So if these proposals weren't "missing" something, I'd be shocked.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">First, all three of the proposals contemplate a process where a breach of the agreement with the IANA Functions Operator could lead to an RFP for a new IANA Functions
Operator (see Section 9). Second, Strawmen 2 and 3 contemplate a contract with a limited term (I put in 3 years for a starting point), and contemplate renewal only upon mutual agreement of the parties. Implicit in that is the right of the "oversight body"
not to agree to renew and to instead seek a new IANA Functions Operator. There are a lot of different ways to handle the concept of renewal in an agreement, and the "re-bidding" concept could certainly be more explicit, if that is what we want to do.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Finally, I think that some parties to these discussions look at separability as you stated, while for others, the point of separability is to make IANA separate from ICANN.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Greg</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I see a fundamental problem with your options, hinging
in the concept of separability. The point of separability is not to make IANA itself separate from ICANN per se, but to allow the new contracting authority to open bidding to other possible IANA functions operators. In other words, the IANA contract should
be periodic, as it was under NTIA, and potentially competitive - the contracting authority should be able to receive multiple applications for the function and decide which one is best.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In all of your models, I don’t see that happening – instead
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Am I missing something, or are you?</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<a href="mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-rfp3-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 11, 2014 10:28 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Grace Abuhamad<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In the course of preparing for tomorrow's call, including discussions with the Co-Chairs of the CWG and other
subgroup leads, it was decided that a preferred course of action would be to prepare three "Strawman Proposals" rather than a single "Framework Document" with multiple variables. These three Strawman Proposals are attached. The proposals are organized on
a consistent outline, largely taken from the "Variables" document. This will allow us to consider the proposals both "vertically" and "horizontally" (i.e., across the documents), and to swap sections as we move toward the ultimate deliverable of a single
proposal. The proposals are intended to capture most of the major alternatives discussed on this list, the CWG list, and in our calls, as well as in other documents circulated in the community. However, if a particular alternative has not been captured in
any proposal, that does not mean that it is "dead" or even disfavored. Similarly, I expect there will be additional issues to be considered in any proposal, and these should be captured as well, either on the call or thereafter.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I apologize for the lateness of the hour; I hope you will see that the alternatives are not unfamiliar, even
if they are now repackaged in proposal form. In our call tomorrow morning, I would like to review and work through these proposals in lieu of items 2 and 3 of the agenda. In the course of that review, we should aim to consider pro's and con's, which will
be added to a document during our call, and then posted or circulated for further editing. I expect that the Strawman Proposals will be similarly posted or circulated.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<font color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Welcome and Roll Call</span></font><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
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here</a>)</span></font><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
<font color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Review of Framework Document (to be circulated before call)</span></font><u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">
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