[CWG-Stewardship] Several questions for DT-F
Jaap Akkerhuis
jaap at NLnetLabs.nl
Fri Apr 17 09:52:47 UTC 2015
Andrew Sullivan writes:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:01:05PM -0400, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> > Can anyone provide either a general answer or specific scenarios where the
> > two-party solution is better.
>
> I cannot think of a reason why this should be enshrined. I can think
> if an excellent reason not to change that _now_, however: the
> relationship is there at the moment, and it's better to change as
> little as possible as a matter of prudence. See below.
The are my thoughts as well.
>
> > 1.c.1 Says that we need to consider increasing robustness WITHIN IANA prior
> > to the CWG proposal being submitted.
> >
> > 1.c.2 Says we need to consider robustness everywhere (including within IANA)
> > post transition.
> >
> > I am not aware of the justification for 1.c.1 other than it was sort of
> > implied by the transfer of tasks from DT-D. But since NTIA did not refuse
> > authorizations and there are no known problems, it is not clear that this is
> > an urgent matter.
> >
> > Moreover I find it highly unlikely that a proper job of this could be done
> > prior to transition if it occurs in 2015 or early 2016.
> >
> > Do we want to keep it?
>
> Unless there is an operational definition of "increase robustness"
> (i.e. a proposal for how robustness is increased, and one that
> specifies the necessary and sufficient conditions for knowing what
> that increase is and to what extent it has happened), I think 1.c.1 is
> actively harmful. It continues to indulge the myth that NTIA is doing
> something that the IANA names community can't or won't do.
Indeed!
>
> If someone has an operationalized proposal, and can show that it is
> important, that's a different matter (though it raises the question of
> whether it's a good idea to undertake the transition when such
> improvements need to be made). Otherwise, the text increases the odds
> that we'll get a needlessly destabilizing change to the IANA
> arrangements at exactly the moment where we want to keep everything as
> stable as possible. After all, if we change IANA and take the NTIA
> away at the same time, then if something goes wrong afterwards we
> won't know whether it was the change to IANA or the loss of the NTIA
> that made the difference. Mill's methods teach us to change one thing
> at a time if we want to understand cause, and I can think of no better
> time than now to invoke that principle.
>
+1,
jaap
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