[CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG

[Martin Boyle]

Milton,

Sorry for the delayed response.

It seems we are talking about two different things.  I agreed below the ICANN as regulator model for gTLDs is one of ICANN's functions.  It does not, and should not, have this regulatory role as the IANA functions operator.  We need to keep ICANN's various roles separate from the IANA functions operator role - ie it is not just keeping the policy separate, but also ICANN's roles as gTLD regulator.

That we keep bringing in gTLD operational issues into the mix does concern me.  I thought we had all agreed that we needed some form of separation of roles.

Martin

From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu]
Sent: 20 February 2015 22:49
To: Martin Boyle; Christopher Wilkinson; cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship
Subject: RE: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG

Martin, in ccTLD land ICANN may not look like a regulator but in gTLD land here is what it does:

*        impose dispute resolution rules on every gTLD registrant in the world

*        decides on the supply of a resource (TLDs),

*        accredits registrars,

*        fixes or has the ability to fix the price for registries' wholesale prices

*        establishes requirements, terms and conditions for the registry-registrar relationship

*        requires the use of certain technologies (e.g., DNSSEC)
I could go on...
Regulators can run things but whether they do or not, ICANN is a regulator/policy maker.

From: cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Martin Boyle
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:45 PM
To: Christopher Wilkinson; cwg-stewardship at icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org> Stewardship
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG

Definitely +1 to this idea, Lise.

And in response to Christopher, I heard Strickling refer to ICANN as one of the stakeholders.  I'm not sure about ICANN as regulator and IANA functions operator - regulators don't really run stuff, do they?  It might be a regulator for the gTLD (registry and registrar) operations, but I'd like to understand why you'd think that this also applied to the IANA functions operation.

Thanks

Martin

From: cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Wilkinson
Sent: 20 February 2015 15:17
To: cwg-stewardship at icann.org<mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org> Stewardship
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] A liaison from the Board to CWG

Okay, +1         CW

PS:        However, I do not see the ICANN Board as a 'stakeholder' in its own right.
            Rather, the ICANN Board is the Regulator holding the Ring among all the Stakeholders.

            That is why the composition of the Board, the way it is appointed and its accountability to the Community, including Governments, is so important, going forward.

On 20 Feb 2015, at 12:15, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com<mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Lise,

This is a welcome idea and i am in support of it.
Thanks for providing prior notice
Cheers!

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Lise Fuhr <lise.fuhr at difo.dk<mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>> wrote:
Dear All,

During the meeting in Singapore the co-chairs have picked up that ICANN Board is an important stakeholder for this groups as well. We have noticed that there have been involvement from the Board in the CWG work during calls and during the actual meetings in Singapore. Because of this involvement, the fact that the board is a stakeholder and in order to ensure a continuously and open dialogue with the CWG, we find that having a liaison from the board could be helpful. Not that the liaison will have a special status within the group but serve as a link between the CWG  and the ICANN board, in line with how the CCWG has a liaison from ICANN Board.

Jonathan and I intend to approach the board regarding this in the beginning of next week.

Best regards,
Jonathan and Lise

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