[CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Tue Feb 24 15:43:01 UTC 2015


hi,

And for balance, if we add another non lawyer, perhaps we then also need
to add another lawyer.

Personally i never understood before that it takes this long to find
legal advice.

avri

On 25-Feb-15 12:22, Milton L Mueller wrote:
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> Yes, maybe we could cool down some of the concerns if you just added
> Kieren and one other independent to it.
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> (I am NOT volunteering!)
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> --MM
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> *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Kieren McCarthy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:56 PM
> *To:* Gomes, Chuck
> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship
> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
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> > How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing
> full openness to all?
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> I don't see many others asking to join this committee so I'm not sure
> this question is valid.
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> What I would be more concerned about is if the first proper decision
> made by this group is done within a small group that refused to allows
> others in, even when asked.
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> Kieren
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> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com
> <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
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>     Kieren,
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>     How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with
>     allowing full openness to all?
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>     Chuck
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>     Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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>     -------- Original message --------
>     From: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com
>     <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>>
>     Date:02/24/2015 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
>     To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>>
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>     Cc: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>     <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>     <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org> Stewardship"
>     <cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
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>     So far with this transition process, every group has been open to
>     all those who wish to join with an expectation of participation. 
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>     I would expect those same rules to apply here. 
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>     It strikes me that it would set a dangerous precedent if the
>     chairs are allowed to create a closed group at any time.
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>     Kieren
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>     On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Gomes, Chuck
>     <cgomes at verisign.com <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
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>         In my opinion, as soon as we open this up to others it will
>         become too large to be effective in what I believe will need
>         to be an interactive process with the legal team selected. I
>         personally favor keeping it as is and require transparency and
>         regular interaction by the 4 members with the CWG.
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>         Chuck
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>         Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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>         -------- Original message --------
>         From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>         <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>         Date:02/24/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
>         To: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com
>         <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>>
>         Cc: "cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>         <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org> Stewardship"
>         <cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>>
>         Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
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>         I will leave this to our CWG chairs, who convened the
>         committee.  I am just a humble servant.
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>         Greg
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>         On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kieren McCarthy
>         <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>>
>         wrote:
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>             I'd be interested in joining this group, help contribute.
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>             Can you advise how I join?
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>             Kieren
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>             On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Greg Shatan
>             <gregshatanipc at gmail.com <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
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>                 The client committee is myself, Maarten Simon,
>                 Jonathan Robinson and Lise Fuhr.
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>                 Greg Shatan
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>                 On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM, CW Lists
>                 <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
>                 <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:
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>                     Who are the members of the Client Committee?
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>                     CW
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>                     On 24 Feb 2015, at 06:33, Kieren McCarthy
>                     <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>                         Can I assume you will be posting the three
>                         remaining law firms responses to this list,
>                         albeit with identifying information removed?
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>                         Kieren
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>                         [sent through phone]
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>                         On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Greg Shatan
>                         <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>                         <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>                             All:
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>                             I write to update you all on the
>                             activities of the Client Committee.
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>                             The Client Committee met on Friday,
>                             February 20.  Also attending were
>                             representatives of ICANN legal, since they
>                             will need to play a role in the selection
>                             and engagement of counsel.
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>                             We had initially identified a total of
>                             eight firms. Each firm has appropriate
>                             expertise in corporate governance,
>                             non-profit matters, trusts, etc.  Each
>                             firm also has a strong California
>                             presence, as well as other offices in the
>                             US and other countries.  
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>                             One firm has withdrawn due to workload
>                             issues.  Four firms have withdrawn due to
>                             client conflicts
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>                             We are left with a short list of three
>                             firms.  Each of these firms has now sent
>                             us a document discussing their relevant
>                             capabilities.  At least one member of the
>                             client committee has had a preliminary
>                             discussion with each firm.  We are now in
>                             the process of setting up a series of
>                             follow-up calls for this week between the
>                             Client Committee and each firm.
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>                             While we would like to reveal the names of
>                             the firms remaining on the short list, at
>                             this point, it is premature to do so.  We
>                             will need to ask each firm permission to
>                             identify it to this group.  We will
>                             discuss this with them during our calls
>                             this week.
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>                             We will keep the CWG updated on our progress.
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>                             Best regards,
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>                             Greg Shatan
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>                             for the Client Committee 
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