[CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
Avri Doria
avri at acm.org
Tue Feb 24 16:50:05 UTC 2015
Hi,
Was with you until the payment of a fee.
Would not some of the arguments we have heard about the effect of ICANN
money being persuasive, mean that our rapporteur could not be paid?
avri
On 25-Feb-15 13:33, Kurt Pritz wrote:
> Why not make Kieren the rapporteur? That would add transparency, take
> the reporting load off of the other participants, and he is a
> professional. He could be paid a fee by ICANN.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org
> <mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> And for balance, if we add another non lawyer, perhaps we then also
>> need to add another lawyer.
>>
>> Personally i never understood before that it takes this long to find
>> legal advice.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> On 25-Feb-15 12:22, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, maybe we could cool down some of the concerns if you just added
>>> Kieren and one other independent to it.
>>>
>>> (I am NOT volunteering!)
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
>>> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Kieren
>>> McCarthy
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:56 PM
>>> *To:* Gomes, Chuck
>>> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship
>>> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with
>>> allowing full openness to all?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see many others asking to join this committee so I'm not
>>> sure this question is valid.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I would be more concerned about is if the first proper decision
>>> made by this group is done within a small group that refused to
>>> allows others in, even when asked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kieren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com
>>> <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kieren,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with
>>> allowing full openness to all?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>>
>>> Date:02/24/2015 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com
>>> <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>>
>>>
>>> Cc: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>>> <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org> Stewardship"
>>> <cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
>>>
>>> So far with this transition process, every group has been open
>>> to all those who wish to join with an expectation of
>>> participation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would expect those same rules to apply here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It strikes me that it would set a dangerous precedent if the
>>> chairs are allowed to create a closed group at any time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kieren
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Gomes, Chuck
>>> <cgomes at verisign.com <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In my opinion, as soon as we open this up to others it will
>>> become too large to be effective in what I believe will need
>>> to be an interactive process with the legal team selected. I
>>> personally favor keeping it as is and require transparency
>>> and regular interaction by the 4 members with the CWG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>
>>> Date:02/24/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>>
>>> Cc: "cwg-stewardship at icann.org
>>> <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org> Stewardship"
>>> <cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
>>>
>>> I will leave this to our CWG chairs, who convened the
>>> committee. I am just a humble servant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kieren McCarthy
>>> <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd be interested in joining this group, help contribute.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you advise how I join?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kieren
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> [sent through phone]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Greg Shatan
>>> <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The client committee is myself, Maarten Simon,
>>> Jonathan Robinson and Lise Fuhr.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Shatan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM, CW Lists
>>> <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu
>>> <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Who are the members of the Client Committee?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Feb 2015, at 06:33, Kieren McCarthy
>>> <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I assume you will be posting the three
>>> remaining law firms responses to this list,
>>> albeit with identifying information removed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kieren
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> [sent through phone]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Greg
>>> Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I write to update you all on the
>>> activities of the Client Committee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Client Committee met on Friday,
>>> February 20. Also attending were
>>> representatives of ICANN legal, since
>>> they will need to play a role in the
>>> selection and engagement of counsel.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We had initially identified a total of
>>> eight firms. Each firm has appropriate
>>> expertise in corporate governance,
>>> non-profit matters, trusts, etc. Each
>>> firm also has a strong California
>>> presence, as well as other offices in
>>> the US and other countries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One firm has withdrawn due to workload
>>> issues. Four firms have withdrawn due
>>> to client conflicts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are left with a short list of three
>>> firms. Each of these firms has now sent
>>> us a document discussing their relevant
>>> capabilities. At least one member of
>>> the client committee has had a
>>> preliminary discussion with each firm.
>>> We are now in the process of setting up
>>> a series of follow-up calls for this
>>> week between the Client Committee and
>>> each firm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While we would like to reveal the names
>>> of the firms remaining on the short
>>> list, at this point, it is premature to
>>> do so. We will need to ask each firm
>>> permission to identify it to this
>>> group. We will discuss this with them
>>> during our calls this week.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We will keep the CWG updated on our
>>> progress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg Shatan
>>>
>>> for the Client Committee
>>>
>>>
>>>
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