[CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update

Wed Feb 25 09:09:32 UTC 2015

Thanks Seun and others before you on this thread.

We set up this client committee around a month ago comprising the two co-chairs plus two lawyers, one from cc community (Maarten), one from g community (Greg).

The group is performing an unusual function and in defining the composition of the committee we sought to balance a number of factors including effectiveness of the group, expertise of the participants etc.

A couple of key points emerge:

1.       This could be done faster. Noted and we share your impatience. 
There has been commitment to the work and it has simply taken some time to identify qualified firms, remove those with conflicts and then produce the short-list.

2.       This could be more transparent. Noted and I’m sure we can improve here. 
There is an element of confidentiality in the selection process as was highlighted earlier in the thread.

Suggestions remain welcome at any time and both points above are clear but please note, and as highlighted by Olivier, a degree of trust is required here. We are working hard and in good faith.

Jonathan

From: Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com] 
Sent: 25 February 2015 06:00
To: Kurt Pritz
Cc: cwg-stewardship at icann.org
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update

The way I understand it is that the 4 team members are volunteering (!paid), so I guess that payment part is mute. I think at this point, there is no need to increase the number, unless the client committee formerly indicate of their need for more people. What is just required is for the committee to document their activities transparently so we can follow them as I believe those will form part of the RFP response (rfp6 I think?- the one about community engagement)

Cheers!
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kindly excuse brevity and typos.

On 25 Feb 2015 06:36, "Kurt Pritz" <kpritz at thedna.org> wrote:

Why not make Kieren the rapporteur? That would add transparency, take the reporting load off of the other participants, and he is a professional. He could be paid a fee by ICANN. 

Kurt

On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

hi,

And for balance, if we add another non lawyer, perhaps we then also need to add another lawyer.

Personally i never understood before that it takes this long to find legal advice.

avri

On 25-Feb-15 12:22, Milton L Mueller wrote:

Yes, maybe we could cool down some of the concerns if you just added Kieren and one other independent to it. 

(I am NOT volunteering!)

--MM

From: cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Kieren McCarthy
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:56 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update

> How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing full openness to all?

I don't see many others asking to join this committee so I'm not sure this question is valid.

What I would be more concerned about is if the first proper decision made by this group is done within a small group that refused to allows others in, even when asked.

Kieren

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

Kieren,

How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing full openness to all?

Chuck

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From: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com> 
Date:02/24/2015 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com> 

Cc: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org> 
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update 

So far with this transition process, every group has been open to all those who wish to join with an expectation of participation.  

I would expect those same rules to apply here. 

It strikes me that it would set a dangerous precedent if the chairs are allowed to create a closed group at any time.

Kieren

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

In my opinion, as soon as we open this up to others it will become too large to be effective in what I believe will need to be an interactive process with the legal team selected. I personally favor keeping it as is and require transparency and regular interaction by the 4 members with the CWG.

Chuck

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From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> 
Date:02/24/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com> 
Cc: "cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org> 
Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update 

I will leave this to our CWG chairs, who convened the committee.  I am just a humble servant. 

Greg

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com> wrote:

I'd be interested in joining this group, help contribute.

Can you advise how I join?

Kieren

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On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:

The client committee is myself, Maarten Simon, Jonathan Robinson and Lise Fuhr. 

Greg Shatan

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM, CW Lists <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

Who are the members of the Client Committee? 

CW

On 24 Feb 2015, at 06:33, Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com> wrote:

Can I assume you will be posting the three remaining law firms responses to this list, albeit with identifying information removed?

Kieren

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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:

All:

I write to update you all on the activities of the Client Committee.

The Client Committee met on Friday, February 20.  Also attending were representatives of ICANN legal, since they will need to play a role in the selection and engagement of counsel.

We had initially identified a total of eight firms. Each firm has appropriate expertise in corporate governance, non-profit matters, trusts, etc.  Each firm also has a strong California presence, as well as other offices in the US and other countries.  

One firm has withdrawn due to workload issues.  Four firms have withdrawn due to client conflicts

We are left with a short list of three firms.  Each of these firms has now sent us a document discussing their relevant capabilities.  At least one member of the client committee has had a preliminary discussion with each firm.  We are now in the process of setting up a series of follow-up calls for this week between the Client Committee and each firm.

While we would like to reveal the names of the firms remaining on the short list, at this point, it is premature to do so.  We will need to ask each firm permission to identify it to this group.  We will discuss this with them during our calls this week.

We will keep the CWG updated on our progress.

Best regards,

Greg Shatan

for the Client Committee 

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