[CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update

[Greg Shatan]

I would be happy to charge my usual hourly rate, as well.  God knows,
nobody else is paying me to do this.

Good news -- since I changed firms in October, my billing rate went down by
over $200 an hour!

Greg

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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Kurt Pritz <kpritz at thedna.org> wrote:

> Hi Avri:
>
> That thought on fees was meant as an aside. I didn't mean for it to
> distract attention from the main idea.
>
> I was trying to find a way for this group to easily admit Kieren, get
> benefit out of his participation, provide transparency, and end the
> distracting discussion about membership in that group.
>
> Because the topic is on the table: a fee could be justified if we were
> giving only the reporting role and not a participant's role in the
> discussion. Kieren's role here would be exactly how he makes his living
> (reporting on ICANN) so I felt odd for volunteering him without making a
> statement like that.
>
> I still recommend that the team admit Kieren and ask him to take the
> reporting role for the reasons above. Just drop the fee part. It is another
> distraction from the big issues at hand.
>
> Thanks for asking,
>
> Kurt
>
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
> Was with you until the payment of a fee.
>
> Would not some of the arguments we have heard about the effect of ICANN
> money being persuasive, mean that our rapporteur could not be paid?
>
> avri
>
> On 25-Feb-15 13:33, Kurt Pritz wrote:
>
> Why not make Kieren the rapporteur? That would add transparency, take the
> reporting load off of the other participants, and he is a professional. He
> could be paid a fee by ICANN.
>
>  Kurt
>
>
>  On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
>
>  hi,
>
> And for balance, if we add another non lawyer, perhaps we then also need
> to add another lawyer.
>
> Personally i never understood before that it takes this long to find legal
> advice.
>
> avri
>
> On 25-Feb-15 12:22, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
> Yes, maybe we could cool down some of the concerns if you just added
> Kieren and one other independent to it.
>
> (I am NOT volunteering!)
>
> --MM
>
>
>
> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [
> mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
> <cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Kieren McCarthy
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 24, 2015 6:56 PM
> *To:* Gomes, Chuck
> *Cc:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship
> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
>
>
> > How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing
> full openness to all?
>
>
>
> I don't see many others asking to join this committee so I'm not sure this
> question is valid.
>
>
> What I would be more concerned about is if the first proper decision made
> by this group is done within a small group that refused to allows others
> in, even when asked.
>
>
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Kieren,
>
>
> How do we balance functionality and timely efficiency with allowing full
> openness to all?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
> Date:02/24/2015 1:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes at verisign.com>
>
> Cc: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>, "cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> Stewardship" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
>
> So far with this transition process, every group has been open to all
> those who wish to join with an expectation of participation.
>
>
> I would expect those same rules to apply here.
>
>
> It strikes me that it would set a dangerous precedent if the chairs are
> allowed to create a closed group at any time.
>
>
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com>
> wrote:
>
>  In my opinion, as soon as we open this up to others it will become too
> large to be effective in what I believe will need to be an interactive
> process with the legal team selected. I personally favor keeping it as is
> and require transparency and regular interaction by the 4 members with the
> CWG.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> Date:02/24/2015 1:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
> Cc: "cwg-stewardship at icann.org Stewardship" <cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Client Committee Update
>
> I will leave this to our CWG chairs, who convened the committee.  I am
> just a humble servant.
>
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kieren McCarthy <
> kierenmccarthy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in joining this group, help contribute.
>
>
> Can you advise how I join?
>
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
> -
> [sent through phone]
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  The client committee is myself, Maarten Simon, Jonathan Robinson and
> Lise Fuhr.
>
>
> Greg Shatan
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:04 AM, CW Lists <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>
> wrote:
>
> Who are the members of the Client Committee?
>
>
> CW
>
>
>
> On 24 Feb 2015, at 06:33, Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Can I assume you will be posting the three remaining law firms responses
> to this list, albeit with identifying information removed?
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
> -
> [sent through phone]
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  All:
>
>
> I write to update you all on the activities of the Client Committee.
>
>
> The Client Committee met on Friday, February 20.  Also attending were
> representatives of ICANN legal, since they will need to play a role in the
> selection and engagement of counsel.
>
>
> We had initially identified a total of eight firms. Each firm has
> appropriate expertise in corporate governance, non-profit matters, trusts,
> etc.  Each firm also has a strong California presence, as well as other
> offices in the US and other countries.
>
>
> One firm has withdrawn due to workload issues.  Four firms have withdrawn
> due to client conflicts
>
>
> We are left with a short list of three firms.  Each of these firms has now
> sent us a document discussing their relevant capabilities.  At least one
> member of the client committee has had a preliminary discussion with each
> firm.  We are now in the process of setting up a series of follow-up calls
> for this week between the Client Committee and each firm.
>
>
> While we would like to reveal the names of the firms remaining on the
> short list, at this point, it is premature to do so.  We will need to ask
> each firm permission to identify it to this group.  We will discuss this
> with them during our calls this week.
>
>
> We will keep the CWG updated on our progress.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Greg Shatan
>
> for the Client Committee
>
>
>
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