[CWG-Stewardship] Chart on CWG link with CCWG on Accountability (UPDATED)

[Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond]

Jonathan,

thanks for the update. I find the updated chart to be an improvement.
Chuck mentions that it is [not] "the responsibility of the IANA CWG or
its chartering organizations to approve the CCWG work stream 1 except to
the extent that they impact our recommendations".
I have two comments:
1. Isn't it up to the chartering organisations to approve the
Accountability CCWG work?
2. I note that there doesn't appear to be any charter-mandated approval
of WS1 work relating to IANA by the IANA Stewardship CWG but would
appreciate if there was a way to let WS1 know if they've fulfilled the
needs of the IANA Stewardship CWG for its own proposal - so I support
the change. Perhaps change the text to: "Receive communication from
CWG-IANA if accountability requirements identified need further
refining", or insert "IANA" somewhere in this sentence and the previous
box too, so as to reduce the "accountability" scope to "IANA CWG related
accountability scope".

Kindest regards,

Olivier
On 19/01/2015 22:54, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
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> Jonathan,
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> Most of the changes you made seem useful to me but I don’t think it is
> the responsibility of the IANA CWG or its chartering organizations to
> approve the CCWG work stream 1 recommendations except to the extent
> that they impact our recommendations.  Our task will be to determine
> whether the accountability recommendations from work stream 1 satisfy
> our needs with respect to CWG recommendations; that may or may not
> involve all of the work stream 1 recommendations.  Maybe I am
> nitpicking; if so let me know.
>
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> Chuck
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> *From:*cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan
> Robinson
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 4:30 PM
> *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Chart on CWG link with CCWG on
> Accountability (UPDATED)
>
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> All,
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> In reviewing the flow-chart, I felt it could do with some revisions as
> I have commented on a number of occasions.
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> Most strikingly, the phrase “conditional accountability” has been
> causing some issues in that it’s not clear what this means, especially
> to the CCWG on Accountability, as was evidenced by reference to it on
> various occasions during their face-to-face meeting today.  What I
> understand that we mean by “conditional accountability” is that we
> view our proposal is conditional on specific accountability measures
> being put in place.
>
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>
> Please see below for a summary of the changes which are encapsulated
> in the updated flow chart.
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> The changes in the attached are as follows:
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>   * Changed ‘final proposal identifying conditional accountability
>     requirements’ to ‘final conditional proposal identifying
>     accountability requirements'
>   * Added dotted line and dotted box to indicate that CWG-IANA would
>     communicate to CCWG-Accountability in case it considers that
>     accountability requirements are not met
>   * Updated (in bold) that chartering organisations would consider and
>     approve *(or not)* work stream 1 recommendations and confirm
>     whether accountability requirements have been met *(or not)*
>   * Updated (in bold) that the ICG would receive communication from
>     chartering organisations / *CWG-IANA*
>
> As ever, any comments or incremental improvements / developments welcome.
>
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> Jonathan
>
>  
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> *From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]
> <mailto:[mailto:jrobinson at afilias.info]>
> *Sent:* 14 January 2015 08:56
> *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org <mailto:cwg-stewardship at icann.org>
> *Cc:* Lise Fuhr (lise.fuhr at difo.dk <mailto:lise.fuhr at difo.dk>)
> *Subject:* Chart on CWG link with CCWG on Accountability
>
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> All,
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> Please see attached for a draft / proposal for the mechanics and flow
> of linking the work of this CWG with that of the CCWG on Accountability.
>
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> As you know, this is a critical area of our work. Accordingly, this
> chart is provided to facilitate discussion on the subject and to
> assist us in getting to a common CWG view of the linkage and relationship.
>
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> Thank-you,
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Jonathan & Lise
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> Co-chairs
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>
>
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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