[CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Re: [DTA - SLE] SLE Document with clarifying background info.
Milton L Mueller
mueller at syr.edu
Fri May 8 19:58:53 UTC 2015
Better read the letter carefully, Paul
It is pure 100% distilled essence of ICANN legal.
As I read the letter, they have not given you anything that is not already published on the web.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-
> bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Paul M Kane - CWG
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 2:50 PM
> To: Grace Abuhamad
> Cc: cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> Subject: [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: Re: [DTA - SLE] SLE Document with
> clarifying background info.
>
> Grace,
>
> Many thanks for helping DT-A obtain the current detailed IANA work
> flow information....
>
> Have a great w/end
>
> Best
>
> Paul
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Paul M Kane - CWG <paul.kane-
> cwg at icb.co.uk> -----
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2015 19:42:18 +0100
> From: Paul M Kane - CWG <paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk>
> Reply-To: Paul M Kane - CWG <paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [DTA - SLE] SLE Document with clarifying background info.
> To: Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>
>
> Thanks Elise
>
> I confirm receipt of the response from ICANN Legal following our DIDP
> request.
>
> On or after the 12th May 2015, we look forward to receiving the
> current detailed IANA process workflow documents (with comments
> as to why any "sensitive"
> information has been redacted) so we can work cooperatively with
> you to create a professional Service Level Expectation (SLE) document
> for the benefit of the whole community.
>
> Have a great w/end
>
> Best
>
> Paul
>
> Quoting Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > ICANN has published its response on the ICANN website to your
> request
> > for workflow documents.
> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/transparency-
> en
> >
> > I just wanted to send a quick note to confirm that you had received
> > the response.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -- Elise
> >
> >
> > From: Paul M Kane - CWG <paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk>
> > Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 10:32 AM
> > To: Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>
> > Cc: "dt1 at icann.org" <dt1 at icann.org>, Kim Davies
> > <kim.davies at icann.org>, Samantha Eisner
> <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>
> > Subject: Re: [DTA - SLE] SLE Document with clarifying background
> info.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Elise - I appreciate you are trying to have the work-flow
> > > documents released to the SLE Design Team.
> > >
> > > Once we have the work-flow documents, it would be great to have
> a
> > > call to discuss how our findings of real-world activity ensure the
> > > SLE captures
> > all
> > > aspects of the RZM process.
> > >
> > > I also welcome and agree with Theresa's comments below:
> > >
> > > Quoting Theresa Swinehart <theresa.swinehart at icann.org>:
> > >
> > >
> > >> We have no desire to affect the results of the community
> > >> processes. We also believe that it would be more appropriate
> > to
> > >> maintain the status quo until the conclusion of the transition
> > >> process
> > to
> > >> not pre-empt or create a perception of pre-empting any of the
> > >> community consensus process around any areas in the
> finalization
> > >> of the
> > transition.
> > >
> > > Samantha - would you please expedite the process please. NTIA
> are
> > > yet to receive your request to share ICANN's internal IANA work-
> flow
> > > diagrams
> > with
> > > the
> > > Design Team.
> > >
> > > Have a great w/end all
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>:
> > >
> > >> Hello Paul,
> > >>
> > >> We too would like to help you finalize the Service Level
> > >> Expectation document and are awaiting all necessary
> authorizations
> > >> to release the documents in question.
> > >>
> > >> May I suggest, in the mean time, that we schedule another
> > teleconference
> > >> with Design Team A to review line by line the SLEs that are in the
> > >> draft document to understand what is requested and to provide
> > >> preliminary
> > feedback
> > >> on feasibility of implementation. This would enable the design
> > >> team to continue work on refining its draft.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> -- Elise
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: Paul M Kane - CWG <paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk>
> > >> Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 2:00 AM
> > >> To: Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>
> > >> Cc: "dt1 at icann.org" <dt1 at icann.org>, Kim Davies
> > >> <kim.davies at icann.org>
> > >> Subject: Re: [DTA - SLE] SLE Document with clarifying background
> info.
> > >>
> > >>> > Morning Elise
> > >>> >
> > >>> > We are trying to finalise the Service Level Expectation
> > >>> document for
> > the
> > >> IANA
> > >>> > transition.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Would you please provide the work-flow documents you
> current
> > >>> have so
> > we
> > >> can
> > >>> > capture what you are doing now and discuss with you which
> steps
> > >>> you
> > >> consider
> > >>> > are
> > >>> > to be removed as part of NTIA's withdrawal from the process.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The balance of the IANA RZM work flow documents can follow
> and
> > >>> be
> > >> discussed,
> > >>> > later.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I understand that IANA RZM uses a ticketing system to initiate
> > >>> and receive > emails to Registry customers. Please ensure that
> > >>> technical resource
> > are
> > >>> > available (as is standard industry practice) to enable IANA to
> > >> automatically
> > >>> > monitor each transaction and collect statistics on its
> > >>> customers use
> > of
> > >> the
> > >>> > ticketing system.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Speak soon I hope
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Best
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Paul
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Quoting Elise Gerich <elise.gerich at icann.org>:
> > >>> >
> > >>>> >> Hello Jay,
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> PaulÃ,¹s email requested Ã,³access to all work-flow
> > >>>> process
> > documentsÃ,²
> > for
> > >> the
> > >>>> >> root zone management function. Including sub-processes,
> > >>>> there are quite
> > >> a
> > >>>> >> few work flow processes for the root zone function. We
> are
> > reviewing
> > all
> > >> of
> > >>>> >> them as per the request.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Let me assure you we are not creating new documentation
> in
> > >>>> response
> > to
> > >> the
> > >>>> >> request, and we are proceeding as fast as possible to
> > >>>> fulfill the
> > >> request.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Best regards,
> > >>>> >> -- Elise
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> From: Jay Daley <jay at nzrs.net.nz> >> Date: Sunday,
> April
> > >>>> 19, 2015 at 1:33 PM >> To: "dt1 at icann.org" <dt1 at icann.org>
> >>
> > >>>> Cc: Kim Davies <kim.davies at icann.org>, Elise Gerich >>
> > >>>> <elise.gerich at icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [DTA - SLE] SLE
> > >>>> Document with clarifying background
> > >>>>
> > info.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >>> > Morning all
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>> >>> > i donÃ,¹t see much point in us having this call
> > >>>>>> without the
> > >> documentation
> > >>>> >> from
> > >>>>>> >>> > IANA. The screenshot of the process flow (thanks
> > >>>>>> Elise)
> > looks
> > pretty
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >> much
> > >>>> >> the
> > >>>>>> >>> > same as the process flow encoded in the
> expectations of
> > >>>>>> the proposed
> > >> SLA,
> > >>>> >> so
> > >>>>>> >>> > we really need to see the more detailed process flow
> to
> > >>>>>> understand
> > >> the
> > >>>> >> issues
> > >>>>>> >>> > Kim raised in the last call.
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>> >>> > It sounds as if IANA are bundling a whole lot of things
> > together
> > to
> > >> send
> > >>>> >> us
> > >>>>>> >>> > when we would benefit from the process flow being
> sent
> > >>>>>> as soon
> > as
> > >>>>> >>> possible
> > >>>>>> >>> > (since it must already exist, all it requires is NTIA
> > >>>>>> permission).
> > >> The
> > >>>> >> other
> > >>>>>> >>> > documents, currently being written, can come later.
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>> >>> > If we do go ahead then I can make this time. If we
> > >>>>>> bring it
> > forward
> > >> an
> > >>>> >> hour
> > >>>>>> >>> > then I can only join for 30 minutes (school run).
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>> >>> > cheers
> > >>>>>> >>> > Jay
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> On 17/04/2015, at 9:16 pm, Patricio Poblete
> > >>>>>> >>>> <patricio.poblete at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> Paul,
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> I cannot join the call at this hour (6 pm) in
> > >>>>>>>> Chile,
> > but I
> > could
> > >> if
> > >> it
> > >>>> >> was
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> one hour earlier.
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> Patricio
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> P. S. Please announce also the UTC time >>>>
> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> On Apr 17, 2015 4:29 AM, "Paul M Kane - CWG"
> > >> <paul.kane-cwg at icb.co.uk>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> To give ICANN legal more time to facilitate
> > >>>>>>>> disclosure
> > of
> > the
> > >> required
> > >>>> >> info
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> may
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> I suggest the time of next call is put back to
> > >>>>>>>> Monday
> > 20th
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> This also gives us time to review our document
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> To have as many participants involved
> in
> > >>>>>>>> the call can I
> > suggest
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> Tuesday 9am Auckland time >>>> >> Monday
> 10 pm
> > >>>>>>>> London time >>>> >> Monday 5pm EST New York >>>>
> >>
> > >>>>>>>> Monday 2 pm PST LA time >>>> >> >>>> >> I think the
> > >>>>>>>> above is correct......
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> Could everyone that is able to attend please
> > >>>>>>>> confirm if
> > this
> > works
> > >> for
> > >>>> >> them
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> Have a great w/end >>>> >> >>>> >> Best
> >>>>
> > >>>>>>>> >> >>>> >> Paul >>>> >> >>>> >> Quoting Kim Davies
> > >>>>>>>> <kim.davies at icann.org>:
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > Hi Paul,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > > Would you please ask ICANN
> legal to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> check
> > that NTIA has
> > >> been
> > >> sent
> > >>>> >> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > > disclosure request for IANA
> Root
> > Services.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > ICANN is still preparing the bundle of
> > materials
> > that is
> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>> responsive
> > >>>> >> to
> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > request. Once it has completed the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> internal
> > review
> > process it
> > >> will be
> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> sent to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > NTIA for their permission to disclose.
> As
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > noted
> > on the
> > >> call,
> > >> ICANN
> > >>>> >> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > doing this as quickly as possible
> ââ,¬Â¹
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> not
> > just for
> > this Design
> > >> Team
> > >> but
> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> others
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > that have asked for information
> ââ,¬Â¹
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> but it
> > is not
> > an
> > >> instantaneous
> > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> process.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > The DIDP process is lead by
> ICANNÃ,¹s
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Legal
> > department but
> > >> they
> > >> have
> > >>>> >> asked
> > >>>> >> us
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > in IANA for clarifications and help
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> compiling
> > the
> > relevant
> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>
> > >> internal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > documentation.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > > Can the SLE DT we have a call
> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Monday
> > (20th) next week
> > >> to
> > >> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> through
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > > comments and all being well
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> flow
> > charts
> > to make sure
> > >> the
> > >> SLE
> > >>>> >> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > complete.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> > > What time (morning) works
> for you?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > At this stage, it looks like I can
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> accommodate
> > any
> > reasonable
> > >> time on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > Monday.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> > kim
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> dt1 mailing list
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> dt1 at icann.org
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/dt1
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >>
> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> dt1 mailing list
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> dt1 at icann.org
> > >>>>>>>> >>>> >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/dt1
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>> >>> >
> > >>>>>> >>> > --
> > >>>>>> >>> > Jay Daley
> > >>>>>> >>> > Chief Executive
> > >>>>>> >>> > NZRS Ltd
> > >>>>>> >>> > desk: +64 4 931 6977
> > >>>>>> >>> > mobile: +64 21 678840
> > >>>>>> >>> > linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jaydaley >>> > >>>
> >
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >>
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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