[CWG-Stewardship] update on DT X Separation Process

[Seun Ojedeji]

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> ... I see it as an organization replacing a bad service provider with a
> good one. No more - or no less - significant than changing an ISP.
>

I don't think the change is as simple as that;  A change of IANA operator
goes beyond just swapping and signing contract, the experience history in
the current IANA operating staff will be lost and that is of great
importance to me. Secondly i think its quite an hypothesis to already
determined that the new IANA operator is a good one, without having tried
them in any way.

Its easier and can be condoned now because we are still maintaining the
operation process and staff of IANA within PTI. So a total change in IANA
operator....will indeed be nuclear option to me. (short of a better word
than Nuclear)

Regards

>
> To get good accountability in this case you need quick and decisive action
> to replace an incompetent or rogue operator.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-
> > bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 5:42 AM
> > To: cwg-stewardship at icann.org
> > Subject: Re: [CWG-Stewardship] update on DT X Separation Process
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > I have responded. Several times I thought.  Maybe you just did not like
> my
> > epxlanation.
> >
> > 1. i do not believe that the same group that recommends a so-called
> nuclear
> > process is the one to execute that process.  It is a checks and balances
> sort of
> > thing.  You do not give yourself a task of this magnitude.
> >
> > 2. I see taking a further step in the separation process as needing the
> same
> > sort of full community review and support that transition requires.
> This is
> > being defined as an extraordinary event , not a regualr event in the
> current
> > formulaton.
> >
> > 3. I believe that those who review and accept this transition proposal
> should
> > be able to have the assurance that the ground is not going to easily slip
> > under them.  If we make it too easy to go to RFP or spin out of the PTI,
> they
> > could be forgiven for insecurity about our proposal
> >
> > That is why I beleive it is not
> >
> > Over-bureaucratization of this process
> >
> > but rather giving a serious issue the proper full community  due
> > consideration.
> >
> > avri
> >
> >
> > On 15-May-15 11:26, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> > > Avri:
> > > I support your concepts of the possible outcomes but I don't understand
> > why a "separation review" is conceived as a new and independent process
> > from the IFR. I've said this before but there has been no answer. If an
> IFR
> > indicates that the community is so dissatisfied that separation is a live
> > possibility, it seems that action needs to be taken expeditiously
> instead of
> > launching another review process. Isn't it possible that this should be
> more
> > like a choice of a service vendor than something like the ICG/IANA
> > stewardship transition? We are not changing stewardship or high-level
> > institutions, we are changing a functions operator.
> Over-bureaucratization of
> > this process actually works against accountability by making the costs
> of a
> > switch so high as to be prohibitive.
> > >
> > > May I please have a response to this?
> > >
> > > --MM
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >>
> > >> To relate this to the SR, each would present a different set of
> > >> opportunities for SR action, that is why the 5 possibilities in the
> > >> SR text are really just examples, an incomplete set in the whole
> > >> universe of examples, that the SR mechanism could recmmend.
> > >>
> > >> As I mentioned in the call this is my personal reason for thinking
> > >> that an SR event, needs to be quite similar to the current Transition
> > event.
> > >> It would be a big deal that the whole community would need to be
> > >> involved in.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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