[CWG-Stewardship] .mil and .gov (and maybe .edu)

[Carlton Samuels]

+1.

The University of the West Indies is registered as uwi.edu.

We are a regional institution with four campuses and 20 or so centres
across the English-speaking Caribbean that began life with a royal [meaning
British] charter as a university college of the University of London.

We also manage the .bb and .jm ccTLDs.

-Carlton


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On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:40 AM, Martin Boyle <Martin.Boyle at nominet.org.uk>
wrote:

>  Currently its policy on eligibility is “Only U.S. postsecondary
> institutions that are institutionally accredited by an agency on the U.S.
> Department of Education's list of Nationally Recognized Accrediting
> Agencies (see recognized accrediting bodies) may obtain an Internet name in
> the .edu domain. These include both "Regional Institutional Accrediting
> Agencies" and "National Institutional and Specialized Accrediting Bodies"
> recognized by the U.S. Department of Education.”  That seems to me to put
> it in the same group as the others.
>
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>
> As Christopher says, .gov, .edu and .mil are really quite similar to US
> specialist ccTLDs – often dealt with at the second level for ccTLDs.  In
> that light, I think it is irrelevant who their registrants are (that is a
> national issue).  But I do not agree that it “belongs in” (by which I mean
> eligible to be a member of) the GNSO (and neither does it fit in the ccNSO).
>
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> And I really do think we would be wasting our time to “clearly and
> narrowly” define education.  In .edu’s case, that is for Educause to work
> out.
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> MB
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> *From:* cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> cwg-stewardship-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *CW Lists
> *Sent:* 14 May 2015 22:58
> *To:* cwg-stewardship at icann.org IANA
> *Subject:* Re: [CWG-Stewardship] .mil and .gov (and maybe .edu)
>
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>
> > Although not mentioned, .edu falls into roughly the same category.
>
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> Well, very roughly. Over the years, .edu has 'wobbled' between a strictly
> US University Domain and something else (ill defined) including lower
> levels of education in the US and an international dimension.
>
> Before CWG goes further, someone should ask the Registry (¿Educause?) for
> a list of the current Registrants.
>
>
>
> My personal expectation would be that we shall finish up classifying .edu
> as a normal gTLD with a registration policy. However, it is NOT an 'open'
> gTLD. In the era of on-line courses, what is 'education' needs to be
> clearly and narrowly defined. Meanwhile, many countries use an .sld in
> their ccTLD for their Universities. e.g. <http://www.soas.ac.uk/>
>
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> Regards
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> CW
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> On 14 May 2015, at 21:49, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>   In yesterday's Congressional hearings, the issue of .mil and .gov was
> brought up, due at least in part to the Defending Internet Freedom Act
> https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/5737, and an
> opinion piece in US News & World Report.
> http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/05/13/congress-should-ask-tough-questions-about-icann-domain-name-transition
>
>
>
> The Defending Internet Freedom Act says (from the summary):
>
> ·         the U.S. government will be granted ownership of the ".gov" and
> ".mil" top-level domains and specified servers will be maintained in the
> United States;
>
> A couple of the Representatives raised concerns that .gov and .mil​ would
> be vulnerable to a transfer away from the USG, and asked the witnesses if
> ownership (or perpetual control) of .gov and .mil by the US should be
> ensured in the transition. Several panelists answered in the affirmative
> and I don't believe any opposed.
>
>
>
> We have not really discussed this issue.  I think it behooves us to deal
> with it.  Given the historical and current use of these two domains< I
> would not expect too much controversy.
>
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>
> Although not mentioned, .edu falls into roughly the same category.  We
> should consider if we should accord it similar treatment.
>
>
>
> Greg
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