[CWG-Stewardship] IOTF Call #12 - Meeting Notes (15 June 2016 @ 20:00 UTC)
Yuko Green
yuko.green at icann.org
Thu Jun 16 19:52:57 UTC 2016
Dear members of the CWG Stewardship,
Below, please find the meeting notes from the IOTF Call #10. The
presentation material, AC room and audio recordings are posted at
https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation under "Meetings & Work
Sessions" section. The transcript will be made available within the next few
days.
*** Meeting Notes ***
Implementation Oversight Task Force (ITOF) call #12
15 June 2016 @ 20:00 UTC
Please note that this meeting is being recorded.
To mute or Unmute, select *6 (Star-Six)
If you would like to review the last call(s), the recordings and
presentation materials are posted publicly here:
https://www.icann.org/stewardship-implementation
Agenda:
1. Opening Remark
2. Implementation Items
TI Bylaws and Articles of Incorporation: Chairs' response to Sidley's
question
PTI Staffing
3. AOB
Helsinki implementation update session
Work plan to finalize PTI formation documents and ICANN-PTI contracts
Decision Log
4. Closing Remarks
Decisions:
PTI Bylaws & AoI table
5.2.3 closed
5.3.3 closed
5.11.3 closed
6.1 closed
***Chat History***
Yuko Green: Hello everybody, welcome to the IOTF call #12!
Yuko Green: We will get started shortly.
Yuko Green: The table is available at
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmsp569qRxkWtNSNrJsZzENxFKLwbXVcTDWSGZJE
qcU/edit?usp=sharing
Yuko Green: All - the comments could not fit into PDF, thus I encourage you
to open up the Google Doc from above provided link.
Grace Abuhamad: If there is no decision/agreement, could I move this
suggestion to a comment rather than part of the draft response at this
stage?
matthew shears: if the PTI manager is the President I think it is desirable
to have an independent chair
Oscar Robles: I support that, unless there is strong support to keep it
matthew shears: but soft option is fine - its a balancing act
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Yes we need not wordsmith here rather just ensure
correect intent
Greg Shatan: I am 211xxx6873 (dialed in while rebooting computer). I've
been on for a few minutes.
Grace Abuhamad: The text is as follows currently:
Grace Abuhamad: Chairperson is required.Chairperson must be elected by the
board.Chairperson must not be the PTI manager.Chairperson must be one of the
NomCom / independent directors. There is a preference that the Chairperson
be a NomCom-appointed director if possible. President may be PTI manager
(must be PTI manager?). There is a preference is that neither the PTI
president and chairperson be PTI staff (whether seconded from ICANN or not).
Grace Abuhamad: oops - bad copy paste. One moment please
Greg Shatan: ICANN only nominates 3. NomCom nominates the other two.
Grace Abuhamad: Here is the correct existing text:
Grace Abuhamad: Chairperson is required.Chairperson must be elected by the
board.Chairperson must not be the PTI manager.There is a preference that the
Chairperson be a NomCom-appointed director if possible. President may be PTI
manager. There is a preference is that neither the PTI president and
chairperson be PTI staff (whether seconded from ICANN or not).
Trang Nguyen: Paragraph 1112: " The PTI Boardcould be comprised of three
directors who are employed by ICANN or PTI (for example, theICANN Executive
responsible for PTI, the ICANN CTO and the IANA Managing Director),and two
additional independent directors. "
Yuko Green: CWG Proposal states: "The PTI Boardcould be comprised of three
directors who are employed by ICANN or PTI (for example, theICANN Executive
responsible for PTI, the ICANN CTO and the IANA Managing Director),and two
additional independent directors. The two additional directors must be
nominatedusing an appropriately rigorous nomination mechanism (e.g. through
the use of the ICANNNominating Committee)."
Greg Shatan: That last preference contradicts the President being the PTI
manager.
Greg Shatan: ICANN appoints all 5 nominees.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Correct Greg
matthew shears: agree - the issue is more one of balance between nom com
appointed and PTI staff
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): yup
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Yes not Both
Grace Abuhamad: Is the sentence correct now? "There is a preference is that
both the PTI president and chairperson be PTI staff (whether seconded from
ICANN or not)."
Lise Fuhr: @Grace missing a not
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): nope Grace
Grace Abuhamad: "here is a preference that both the PTI president and
chairperson not be PTI staff (whether seconded from ICANN or not)."
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): YES
matthew shears: yes
Donna Austin 2: President = PTI Manager; Chaiirperson is elected by the
Board, but must not be the President = PTI Manager.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Yes Chuck it is IMO
Grace Abuhamad: I can type whichever you would like! It's not my text :)
elise: I understand it the way Donna has said it.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Phew AAkram thanks I was looking for a
'headslap'ICON for a moment then
Donna Austin 2: Would you have a circumstance where you would have a
President and a PTI Manager?
Donna Austin 2: that should be, where you would have a President and the PTI
Manager on the Board of the PTI?
Donna Austin 2: @Jonathan, and mine too.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): yup
Greg Shatan: Chuck you are correct
matthew shears: if PTI manager = President then yes, Chair should be
indepedent
Lise Fuhr: @Chuck yes
Donna Austin 2: @Chuck, agree the Chair would be independent as the
preferred option.
Greg Shatan: This was all supposed to be so lightweight <sigh>
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): LOL
matthew shears: yes, correct!
Trang Nguyen: I think the 2 options are either the Chair is a NomCom
nominated director, or the Chair is not the PTI President.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): I agree that was the assumption @Jonthan
Chuck Gomes: Thanks Matthew.
Lise Fuhr: Yes
elise: Akram said - regardless of whether the presidnet is on the board or
not - the chairmanship should not be held by the president
elise: dictated by akram to elise
Donna Austin 2: If the President is not the PTI Manager, who will be the
President? One of the three appointments made by ICANN?
Chuck Gomes: Once again we are not going to be able to finish the Bylaws. I
think it is very important that we spend some time on the rationale document
in this meeting.
Greg Shatan: What is the job description of the President if they are not
the PTI Manager?
matthew shears: perhaps we should just say that the chair should be
appointed by the nomcom
matthew shears: that would leave the option of President being PTI manager
and being on the Board
Chuck Gomes: The best person for chair might not be a nom-com appointee.
matthew shears: agree chuck - but this is PTI and there does need to be some
degree of independence am ong the key roles
Alissa Cooper: Not sure if it helps anyway, but you're talking about a board
for an affiliate that is going to have a dozen employees who will be
carrying out clerical functions. Might not be necessary to over-optimize
given the likely responsibilities of this board. Back to lurking ...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): zudio?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Llow for review is OK
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Allow
Grace Abuhamad: I will provide a redline version and clean version to the
full IOTF and CWG groups in advance of CWG call
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Thx Grace
Donna Austin 2: Thanks Chuck and I can confirm that this is the position of
the RySG.
Chuck Gomes: Let's figure out what we need to do to make secondment work and
do it.
Donna Austin 2: Sorry all, I have to drop for another call.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): bye Donna
Lise Fuhr: Bye Donna
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): If and when is OK I heard New Staff
Lise Fuhr: @Jonathan - correct
Lise Fuhr: Sorry for confusion
Lise Fuhr: Not hire new staff - but when hiring new staff then to PTI
matthew shears: apologies have to drop off
Avri Doria: my issue is with conflict of interest in the senior most person.
Chuck Gomes: @ Lise: Would that hamper recruiting for new staff?
Oscar Robles: yes, please
Avri Doria: Chuck, i doubt it. if is a good place to work, people looking
for a job will want to work there.
Avri Doria: ( said as someone who is always looking for work )
Avri Doria: i think the class issue can be dealt with
Avri Doria: i.e. treat all employees equally.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Yes Avri it shuld be abe to be
Jonathan Robinson: Thanks Akram. Good to have you on the call.
Lise Fuhr: Thank you bye all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): Bye everyone talk again *soon*...
Jonathan Robinson: Sorry for my part in the overrun
Avri Doria: good travels all who are travelling
Regards,
Yuko Green
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