<div dir="ltr">Grace,<div><br></div><div>FYI, for New York (and I assume other East Coast US/Canada points of departure) it appears that all flights to Frankfurt are overnight flights, so flights arriving on the 18th will depart on the 17th. The last return flight to New York is 5:10 pm, which would probably mean departing the venue around 2 pm. If we want a full 2 days, it would be necessary for those in this category to stay over until the 20th.</div><div><br></div><div>Greg Shatan</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Grace Abuhamad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><div>Yes, that is correct. Arrival will need to by on 18 November in order to participate in the full day meetings on 19-20 November. We will aim for departures on the 20 November in the evening.</div><div><br></div><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:47 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Grace Abuhamad <<a href="mailto:grace.abuhamad@icann.org" target="_blank">grace.abuhamad@icann.org</a>>, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>, Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk" target="_blank">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] F2F meeting in November<br></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Grace – would you be in a position to at least confirm that the dates will remain the same - full days on November 19<sup>th</sup> and 20<sup>th</sup>.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Allan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grace Abuhamad<br><b>Sent:</b> October-22-14 2:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> James Gannon; Lise Fuhr; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] F2F meeting in November<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">I will send you the details as soon as I can. Likely by tomorrow. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:52 AM<br><b>To: </b>Lise Fuhr <<a href="mailto:lise.fuhr@difo.dk" target="_blank">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] F2F meeting in November<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">Do we have a details for the meeting in Frankfurt? Hotel, Conference Center etc.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d">The earlier we can have confirmation of all the details those of us travelling independently can book travel.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:#1f497d"> </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lise Fuhr<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] F2F meeting in November<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Dear All,</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">In relation to the F2F meeting, we have taken note of your comments and do acknowledge that
there are certain challenges associated with location as well as dates for some of you.
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">However, taking into account the very strict timeline the CWG is on (publication of Initial
Report by 1 December), availability of venue, ensuring a level of fairness of travel time required to get to the meeting, not eat into people’s weekend and availability of CWG Chairs, there is no alternative to the meeting dates and location (Europe) that
has been proposed. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">ICANN has informed the Chairs this morning that, for a variety of reasons, including travel
logistics and cost effectiveness, Frankfurt is now the location of the F2F meeting instead of Amsterdam (exact venue to be confirmed shortly). We sincerely hope that you will be able to find some flexibility in your undoubtedly very busy schedules to accommodate
this meeting and please do note that remote participation will be available for those that are not able to participate in person. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Given these limitations on scheduling, in the interests of providing certainty to those who may face
delays in securing necessary visas and to those who may be traveling at their own expense, we would like to confirm the date and venue of the meeting will remain unchanged going forward.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Best regards,<br><br>
Jonathan Robinson and Lise Fuhr</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div>
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