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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">J. Beckwith Burr<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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+1.202.352.6367 <span style="color: rgb(6, 134, 88); ">/ <a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" style="color: purple; ">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a> / www.neustar.biz</span></span></p>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google" <<a href="mailto:tracyhackshaw@gmail.com">tracyhackshaw@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 5:31 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>>, Guru Acharya <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<br>
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<div dir="ltr">What about the ccTLDs who are NOT part of the ccNSO ... has this been discussed/dealt with already?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Allan MacGillivray <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So let’s see if I have got this correct. The idea is that the registries would set up a corporation that could contract with IANA, either as a stand-alone
entity or as a department of ICANN, for the performance of the IANA functions – let’s call it ‘RegistryCo’ for short. Would there not be liability concerns on the part of many registries to being directors of RegistryCo? Even if they could be convinced,
would those ccTLDs that are governments be comfortable with such an approach? And it would need some money to get going. Incorporating does take little money, but negotiating the contract would be quite another issue.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Burr, Becky [mailto:<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> October-23-14 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller; Guru Acharya<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Allan MacGillivray; Fouad Bajwa; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<u></u><u></u></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Correct. In any case, it takes very little time or money to create a light weight legal entity. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">J. Beckwith Burr</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);">Neustar, Inc. /</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> Deputy General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Milton L Mueller <<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=GgzA5SwJogI0ald8wwDSR-ml1BmbWp0LkVsHeAGs0EU&s=ZpmqRGN-6diwUv7gbTulgFXccZAa2eMl5e0pxgIPoEk&e=" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Guru Acharya <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>>, Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>>, Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">No. Guru this is incorrect. Both the CCNSO and the GNSO are made up of mostly incorporated legal entities. Certainly the TLD registries
in both entities are legally incorporated.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Even though NFL is an unincorporated association, the 32 independent teams that comprise the unincorporated association are legal entities. These 32 legal entities then collectively enter to into pooled-rights
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);">Neustar, Inc. /</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;"> Deputy General Counsel
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Becky Burr <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">becky.burr@neustar.biz</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">>,
Milton L Mueller <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=INYMVpabyaFlLICPn_6grbXytRGxGNbwdxstS1N6kfU&s=xm679ts9ebwDNuRzz6N0a2u03BsoJV4iMSTlfNWBXKU&e=" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">mueller@syr.edu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">>,
Fouad Bajwa <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Becky – you raise a very important point as to whether unincorporated entities can enter into enforceable contracts. If they can, it may simplify
things considerably e.g. have ccNSO, GNSO, ALAC? 'take over’ the contact with ICANN. I had been labouring under the assumption that the ccNSO, GNSO would have to incorporate to do this. How can we get clarity on this?</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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[</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-23-14 11:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller; Fouad Bajwa<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Rather than starting with legal constructs, let’s begin by talking about what we need to accomplish requisite accountability. To me, we need some independent
committee, council, unincorporated association, or representative group to have a contract with ICANN/IANA for performing IANA functions consistent with SLA’s to be negotiated and documented. We need this entity, presumably representative of IANA service
consumers, to have recourse if the SLA’s are not met. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">If this is correct, then we can look at what kind of legal entity we need for the “SLA Council.” Seems to me that the core of this group would be registry
operators, perhaps with representation from other stakeholders like registstrars, registrants, etc. Could be stand alone or perhaps housed in ISOC or the IETF? I am pretty sure that unincorporated associations can enter into enforceable contracts, etc. (For
example, the National Football League in the US is actually an unincorporated association).</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Second, we need a mechanism that ensure recourse and redress for a registry that is wrongfully revoked, delegated, etc. That mechanism can be provided to
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</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Milton L Mueller <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFAw&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=9jEM_hACGXiATouHvV-V_jUNH5sc3y-bQFzqRD4_qRU&s=WD5mnQGH8gOzXMllT3aJRt_wLg7aZMZR0oiM_ERgS0g&e=" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">mueller@syr.edu</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Fouad Bajwa <</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Fouad:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">By the “technical community proposals” I assume you mean the protocols community.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What your argument misses is that IANA _<i>is</i>_ a separate organizational entity for both the numbers and protocols communities.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The protocol community has an MoU with ICANN that authorizes ICANN to perform the IANA functions for them. That MoU can be revoked, and
IETF can decide to use someone else. That is the perfect accountability mechanism. Now, tell me how the names community achieves that same wonderful state? There are two ways to do it: pull the IANA out of ICANN, or set up a new contracting authority to replace
the NTIA, which could periodically award the contract to ICANN or to anyone else qualified.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">No one wants “the IANA technical and policy functions [might] fall into the hands and whims of governments.” That in fact is a requirement
imposed on the transition by the NTIA. But we do need to make significant organizational changes if we are to meet the requirement of accountability. I think scare talk about take overs can divert our attention from needed reforms and I would resist that kind
of talk. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I don't think that IANA should be evolved as a separate entity at all and create new opportunities for bureaucracies for governments and industry control. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">The technical community proposals are highly reasonable to not make such a big fuss out of it and help IANA transition under a body that is somewhat messed up but can be improved in the long run however,
ICANN would need some changes. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">The technical community has also shown its concern that it doesn't want the IANA technical and policy function to fall into the hands of the whims of governments because it functions to the technical
community's needs adequately in its present environment and role. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Your challenge and for the ICG is to propose that most transparent and accountable way forward that ensures an open and inclusive relationship with the Internet community treating stakeholders in their
respective roles but not giving preference to one group over another another. I don't have to go through the Internet Governance ideals over and over again here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">First ICANN Board control as the final word for IANA affairs would have to be reviewed and should be taken into a broader community review process. I do not trust the ICANN Board to be able to manage
both ICANN and IANA in a transparent and accountable way, their progress over the years has had its own set of troubles already. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">The proposals are interesting but not the final word. The final word will remain with NTIA and thats my concern from a developing country member citizen perspective. I am going through a great deal
of suggestions and proposals and all show a similar aspect, don't disturb the IANA technical function and the policies for IANA developed by the community have work so far but require more transparency, accountability and functional relationships with the
community ensuring open and inclusive participation in its policy development processes. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">+1 Option 2 is preferred from my end also. However i also added Option 4 as a second preference just incase things get delayed with the accountability process.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Hello all,<br>
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you might wish to see an expanded set of "Options", in a Google Doc which has been shared.<br>
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<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1B46mlsyZUFF4bZfeWgGCdqIQHCP2BMOy4KZU4RiRiE8_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=AAMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=iSr26xOvv_x1A2nuUqvtaRwVOgTvzV0efqUDkGy07cw&s=fUDcpKHcSBfPHc8c3PFUK3EGMl9QAYJOV5JFJEPECSo&e=" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B46mlsyZUFF4bZfeWgGCdqIQHCP2BMOy4KZU4RiRiE8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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So far, I note that the majority of our participants on the At-Large IANA Issues WG appears to prefer Option 2.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">On 15/10/2014 22:55, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">How the names community approach will differ from the approach adopted by the numbers community and protocols community?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Numbers Community: APNIC has reached consensus on its proposal. According to the proposal, IANA will continue to reside in ICANN. It proposes to replace NTIA oversight with a Service Level Agreement
(SLA) and Affirmation of Commitment (AOC) between NRO and ICANN.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.slideshare.net_fullscreen_apnic_report-2Dianatransition_1&d=AAMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=iSr26xOvv_x1A2nuUqvtaRwVOgTvzV0efqUDkGy07cw&s=ipQr6NSV4s2YyeTKtleRzaehK6NnJP70z0QOuy57W7o&e=" target="_blank">www.slideshare.net/fullscreen/apnic/report-ianatransition/1</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Therefore, neither the numbers community, nor the protocol community appear to be in the direction of suggesting a new MS Oversight Entity to replace NTIA and its oversight. Merely contracts between
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Can the names community adopt a similar approach? Can a contractual agreement (SLA/AOC/MOU) between ICANN and GNSO/CCNSO be expected to replace NTIA oversight?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Clearly NO! This approach can not be adopted by the names community because the names community resides within ICANN, which is also the IANA operator. Specifically, GNSO and CCNSO are essentially subsets
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Therefore, it is essential to either<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Option (iii): make a new legal entity comprising of CCNSO and GNSO that is structurally independent of ICANN and require that new entity to enter into a contractual oversight agreement (SLA/AOC/MOU)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">I also feel that option (iii) is not feasible because the CCNSO and GNSO are heavily integrated with ICANN and structural separation of these two communities from ICANN will be in-feasible.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Also, from the Jordan Carter document, the option on page 7 can be discarded, which makes ICANN the oversight body, as IANA will continue to reside in ICANN, as clearly suggested by the proposals of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Therefore, option (i) is clearly the only option available with the names community.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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