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<div>Thanks Elise, very helpful. I was thinking that the “oversight counsel” would focus on technical and operational issues as opposed to policy issues: Things like SLAs, how quickly name server changes are processed, etc. Where a government actually operates
the ccTLD, it would be direct consumers of IANA services, like gTLDs and ccTLDs. </div>
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<div>But policy for IANA would remain in existing ICANN processes. Could you help me understand which technical/operational IANA services might raise “public interest” concerns? I agree with you that having some GAC reps on a Oversight Counsel would not be
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, October 28, 2014 at 8:50 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>, "Lindeberg, Elise" <<a href="mailto:elise.lindeberg@npt.no">elise.lindeberg@npt.no</a>>, Donna Austin <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@ariservices.com">Donna.Austin@ariservices.com</a>>,
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks, Elise.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It seems that one way around the concern is that we make sure that somewhere it specifically says that members of the GAC are on equal standing as
any other member of the Oversight Council and, in addition, that the ICANN Bylaws provision allowing for GAC advice on any policy matter does not apply to IANA. Ie, that the GAC cannot exercise any additional authority over IANA functions through other means/routes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Gannon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lindeberg, Elise; Donna Austin; Burr, Becky; Carolina Aguerre; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Great initial response from the GAC Elise.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lindeberg, Elise<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 28, 2014 3:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Donna Austin; Burr, Becky; Carolina Aguerre; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dear Donna, all
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I just wanted to inform you that I have sent an email to GAC members and Participant in the CWG regarding the role of the GAC/government representation
in a model where there is established an “Oversight Council” on the IANA function and deliveries.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">There is of course the fact that each and every GAC representatives only speak on behalf of their own government/administration, but I guess that’s
also the case for the ccTLDs and gTLDs - they do not represent the whole of the ccNSO or the GNSO as such. The model in itself is very challenging, and we don’t have any conclusion on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I just want to underline that If a council were to be established with broad representation from the community, - I don’t see that GAC/Government
representation in such a model in any way would be in contradiction with the requirements stated by the NTIA. Governments are one stakeholder in the Multistakeholder ECO system. Their role in a “Oversight Council” on equal basis with other stakeholders,
looking after the public interest in the processes of IANA, could not be seen as
</span><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">a government-led or an inter-governmental organisation solution.</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best regards
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Elise Knutssøn Lindeberg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>På vegne av</b> Donna Austin<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 27. oktober 2014 19:42<br>
<b>Til:</b> Burr, Becky; Carolina Aguerre; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">
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<b>Emne:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Becky, all</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Can someone explain to me how GAC participation/involvement in an Oversight Council is considered in the context of the NTIA provision
that “… the NTIA will not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government-led or an inter-governmental organisation solution.”</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m just trying to understand the distinction being made here. Is a solution that allows government participation on an equal basis as
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<b>To:</b> Carolina Aguerre; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">First, the total number of completely unaffiliated ccTLDs is somewhere around 58, not 96. I suspect that a few of these aren’t actually delegated,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Second, why couldn’t those that are completely unaffiliated and prefer to remain that way participate directly (I.e., without the ccNSO or the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Finally, I don’t know why this creates the nexus for GAC in future arrangements? Some ccTLDs operate under government contracts (for example,
.US). Our participation in a User’s Council might be affected by the contract, but I don’t think that means the Department of Commerce should (or would want to be) a member of the Council. In a relatively small number of cases, a government institution actually
operates the ccTLD. In that case, the government would be a direct consumer of IANA services. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Don’t get me wrong, if the notion is that the GAC would have a seat on the Council, I suppose I wouldn’t object, but in my experience members
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, October 24, 2014 at 6:50 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Hi Tracy,<br>
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Indeed the numbers raised by Peter are global, thus including the LAC region and LACTLD<br>
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Carolina<br>
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On 24/10/2014 05:03 a.m., Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Thank you Peter ... extremely helpful. I assume you also have counted those in LACTLD?</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">So ... 96 ccTLDs could POTENTIALLY not recognize the ccNSO in any future organizational arrangement involving the ccNSO as is being suggested here.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">That is not insubstantial.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I can also imagine that when you factor those that are Government affiliated within these 96 ccTLDs, the issues become quite complex as they relate to these discussions.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">I wonder if this is the nexus for GAC involvement in future organizational arrangements ...
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<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">However that will still POTENTIALLY leave some ccTLDs out of the future arrangements being considered here, save for coercing them into joining either the ccNSO
or the regional orgs.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Any thoughts?</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">/t<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Becky is right, this process is open to all ccTLDs. The regional organisations are reaching
out to those that are not in the ccNSO and to those that are unaffiliated in their respective regions.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">However, it should be taken into account when discussing the future role the ccNSO could
play, that some ccTLDs will not recognize the ccNSO as a representative of their interests.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Out of the 248 ccTLDs:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">152 are members of the ccNSO. Most of those are also a member of their regional organisation
(AfTLD, APTLD, CENTR and APTLD).</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">38 ccTLDs are members of their regional organisation but not of the ccNSO.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">58 ccTLDs are unaffiliated.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> donderdag 23 oktober 2014 23:37<br>
<b>To:</b> Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google; Allan MacGillivray<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
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</span></b><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">"Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google" <<a href="mailto:tracyhackshaw@gmail.com" target="_blank">tracyhackshaw@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 5:31 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, Milton L Mueller <<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMD-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=QpQAt_piuchJf9ejWDh3H_z119DN4HT2HzMk0YusRzw&s=MfTsSXzXbuHI0rFcHtnorPW-C4XKghU8vC-r39Erl4M&e=" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>>,
Guru Acharya <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">What about the ccTLDs who are NOT part of the ccNSO ... has this been discussed/dealt
with already? </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="NL-BE" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>>
wrote:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So let’s see if I have got this correct. The idea is that the registries
would set up a corporation that could contract with IANA, either as a stand-alone entity or as a department of ICANN, for the performance of the IANA functions – let’s call it ‘RegistryCo’ for short. Would there not be liability concerns on the part of many
registries to being directors of RegistryCo? Even if they could be convinced, would those ccTLDs that are governments be comfortable with such an approach? And it would need some money to get going. Incorporating does take little money, but negotiating
the contract would be quite another issue. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black;"> Burr,
Becky [mailto:<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> October-23-14 4:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller; Guru Acharya<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Allan MacGillivray; Fouad Bajwa; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a></span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Correct. In any case, it takes very little time or money to create a light weight
legal entity. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">J. Beckwith Burr</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="tel:%2B1.202.352.6367" target="_blank">+1.202.352.6367</a> </span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);">/ <a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a> /
<a href="http://www.neustar.biz" target="_blank">www.neustar.biz</a></span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Milton L Mueller <<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=GgzA5SwJogI0ald8wwDSR-ml1BmbWp0LkVsHeAGs0EU&s=ZpmqRGN-6diwUv7gbTulgFXccZAa2eMl5e0pxgIPoEk&e=" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 3:41 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Guru Acharya <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>>, Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>>, Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
<<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">No. Guru this is incorrect. Both the CCNSO and the GNSO are made up of mostly incorporated
legal entities. Certainly the TLD registries in both entities are legally incorporated.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;"> Guru Acharya [<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com</a>]
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Even though NFL is an unincorporated association, the 32 independent teams that comprise the unincorporated association are legal entities. These 32 legal
entities then collectively enter to into pooled-rights contract with any third party.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">In comparison, CCNSO and GNSO are not legal entities; and they can not form an unincorporated association.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">The law varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but in the US, the question is whether there is
an enforceable contract and not whether one of the contracting parties is a formal legal entity. I can assure you, the NFL enforces contracts all the time.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">J. Beckwith Burr</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">1775 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20006</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Allan MacGillivray <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Becky Burr <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">becky.burr@neustar.biz</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">>,
Milton L Mueller <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=INYMVpabyaFlLICPn_6grbXytRGxGNbwdxstS1N6kfU&s=xm679ts9ebwDNuRzz6N0a2u03BsoJV4iMSTlfNWBXKU&e=" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">mueller@syr.edu</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">>,
Fouad Bajwa <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">"
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Becky – you raise a very important point as to whether unincorporated entities
can enter into enforceable contracts. If they can, it may simplify things considerably e.g. have ccNSO, GNSO, ALAC? 'take over’ the contact with ICANN. I had been labouring under the assumption that the ccNSO, GNSO would have to incorporate to do this.
How can we get clarity on this?</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-23-14 11:43 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller; Fouad Bajwa<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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to accomplish requisite accountability. To me, we need some independent committee, council, unincorporated association, or representative group to have a contract with ICANN/IANA for performing IANA functions consistent with SLA’s to be negotiated and documented.
We need this entity, presumably representative of IANA service consumers, to have recourse if the SLA’s are not met. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Council.” Seems to me that the core of this group would be registry operators, perhaps with representation from other stakeholders like registstrars, registrants, etc. Could be stand alone or perhaps housed in ISOC or the IETF? I am pretty sure that unincorporated
associations can enter into enforceable contracts, etc. (For example, the National Football League in the US is actually an unincorporated association).</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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wrongfully revoked, delegated, etc. That mechanism can be provided to all through the ICANN bylaws, e.g., as an independent review.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">Milton L Mueller <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailto-3Amueller-40syr.edu&d=AAMFAw&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=9jEM_hACGXiATouHvV-V_jUNH5sc3y-bQFzqRD4_qRU&s=WD5mnQGH8gOzXMllT3aJRt_wLg7aZMZR0oiM_ERgS0g&e=" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">mueller@syr.edu</span></a></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, October 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Fouad Bajwa <</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">"
<</span><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black;">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Fouad:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">By the “technical community proposals” I assume you mean the protocols community.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What your argument misses is that IANA _<i>is</i>_ a separate organizational entity for
both the numbers and protocols communities. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The protocol community has an MoU with ICANN that authorizes ICANN to perform the IANA
functions for them. That MoU can be revoked, and IETF can decide to use someone else. That is the perfect accountability mechanism. Now, tell me how the names community achieves that same wonderful state? There are two ways to do it: pull the IANA out of ICANN,
or set up a new contracting authority to replace the NTIA, which could periodically award the contract to ICANN or to anyone else qualified.
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of governments.” That in fact is a requirement imposed on the transition by the NTIA. But we do need to make significant organizational changes if we are to meet the requirement of accountability. I think scare talk about take overs can divert our attention
from needed reforms and I would resist that kind of talk. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">The technical community proposals are highly reasonable to not make such a big fuss out of it and help IANA transition under a body that is somewhat messed
up but can be improved in the long run however, ICANN would need some changes. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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because it functions to the technical community's needs adequately in its present environment and role. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Internet community treating stakeholders in their respective roles but not giving preference to one group over another another. I don't have to go through the Internet Governance ideals over and over again here.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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not trust the ICANN Board to be able to manage both ICANN and IANA in a transparent and accountable way, their progress over the years has had its own set of troubles already. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">The proposals are interesting but not the final word. The final word will remain with NTIA and thats my concern from a developing country member citizen
perspective. I am going through a great deal of suggestions and proposals and all show a similar aspect, don't disturb the IANA technical function and the policies for IANA developed by the community have work so far but require more transparency, accountability
and functional relationships with the community ensuring open and inclusive participation in its policy development processes. </span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">+1 Option 2 is preferred from my end also. However i also added Option 4 as a second preference just incase things get delayed with the accountability process.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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you might wish to see an expanded set of "Options", in a Google Doc which has been shared.<br>
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<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1B46mlsyZUFF4bZfeWgGCdqIQHCP2BMOy4KZU4RiRiE8_edit-3Fusp-3Dsharing&d=AAMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=iSr26xOvv_x1A2nuUqvtaRwVOgTvzV0efqUDkGy07cw&s=fUDcpKHcSBfPHc8c3PFUK3EGMl9QAYJOV5JFJEPECSo&e=" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B46mlsyZUFF4bZfeWgGCdqIQHCP2BMOy4KZU4RiRiE8/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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So far, I note that the majority of our participants on the At-Large IANA Issues WG appears to prefer Option 2.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Olivier</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thu, 16 Oct 2014 02:40:47 +0530<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">How the names community approach will differ from the approach adopted by the numbers community and protocols community?</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Numbers Community: APNIC has reached consensus on its proposal. According to the proposal, IANA will continue to reside in ICANN. It proposes to replace
NTIA oversight with a Service Level Agreement (SLA) and Affirmation of Commitment (AOC) between NRO and ICANN.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Protocols Community: The IETF draft proposal suggests that no structural changes are required as a result of the transition. The MOU between ICANN and
the IETF community will continue to govern the existing relationship. Again, IANA will continue to reside in ICANN.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Therefore, neither the numbers community, nor the protocol community appear to be in the direction of suggesting a new MS Oversight Entity to replace NTIA
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Clearly NO! This approach can not be adopted by the names community because the names community resides within ICANN, which is also the IANA operator.
Specifically, GNSO and CCNSO are essentially subsets of ICANN, and therefore a contractual agreement (SLA/AOC/MOU) between ICANN and GNSO/CCNSO can not be expected to replace NTIA oversight.</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Therefore, it is essential to either</span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Option (i): create a new legal entity, which has a contractual oversight relationship with ICANN. This would be similar to <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.internetgovernance.org_2014_08_04_students-2Dschool-2Dfaculty-2Don-2Diana-2Dtransition-2Dthe-2Dmeissen-2Dproposal_&d=AAMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=iSr26xOvv_x1A2nuUqvtaRwVOgTvzV0efqUDkGy07cw&s=HC19PauLIvR68L1aaQZMUV1ysZRdzy1Rku_FhtwR4P0&e=" target="_blank">http://www.internetgovernance.org/2014/08/04/students-school-faculty-on-iana-transition-the-meissen-proposal/</a></span><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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