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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In my opinion, while "day to day oversight" is technical/operational; any "major review oversight" will involve policy issues.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">It depends on what you mean by “policy issues.” I would disagree that the choice of an IANA operator is a way
to make global policy for the DNS. What you call “major review oversight” is, I think, nothing more than the power to change the IANA functions operator.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Milton L. Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I agree with Becky that "day to day oversight" only involves the registeries.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I however strongly feel that "major review oversight" involves the GAC and ALAC and other stakeholder groups from GNSO such as NCSG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Establishing a "separate mechanism" for "major review oversight" appears to be cumbersome. Therefore i disagree with Alan and Milton.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I feel it is simpler to include all ACs and SGs in the "Oversight Council" to deal with "major review oversight".<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hello all,<br>
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irrespective of whether an "Oversight Council" is a desirable thing or not (I have not yet made up my mind about this, only having very basic information about it), I see a serious conflict of Interest where only the directly affected parties oversee operations
that concern them directly. <br>
There was much discussion about the GAC having seats. Although I have not asked them, I am pretty much sure that end users, as affected parties, would need a number of seats too.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Olivier<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 29/10/2014 14:33, Burr, Becky wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I’d envisioned the “Oversight Council” to be elected by registries (ccs and gs) organized in some fashion outside of the ICANN umbrella – so the IANA Oversight Inc. or
other association we were talking about the other day. It seems to me that the duties and authority of the Council would be determined by the membership of the organization (I.e., the registries) – so these questions would be resolved as part of structuring
Oversight, Inc. Let’s not create yet another separate mechanism. Instead, figure out a way for the views of all stakeholders with respect to major decisions can be collected by Oversight, Inc. and taken into account in the process of developing major proposals.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;font-weight:bold">From:
</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Guru Acharya <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span></b>Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b>Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span></b>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>>,
"Lindeberg, Elise" <<a href="mailto:elise.lindeberg@npt.no" target="_blank">elise.lindeberg@npt.no</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Postulates emerging from Allan's remarks:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The Oversight Council will monitor compliance with day to day technical SLA type requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Even though the final contracting authority of changing the IANA operator will rest with the Oversight Council:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1) There will be a "separate mechanism" for recommending any major decision to the Oversight Council, including change of IANA operator<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">2) The Oversight Council will be bound to accept/implement the decision of the "separate mechanism". <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">3) That "separate mechanism" will necessarily involve the views of the GAC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">4) That "separate mechanism" will be at an arms length from ICANN so that the ICANN board can not interfere since ICANN is the present IANA operator.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">How do we intend to codify these characteristics of the "separate mechanism" so that the GAC can be assured that they will be consulted in case of change of the IANA operator?
Maybe as part of a MOU between the Oversight Council and GAC+ALAC+GNSO+CCSNO?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt">I see the “oversight council” as being a body that deals with IANA compliance with day-to-day SLA-type
responsibilities e.g. the current performance metric that 80% of root zone file and WHOIS database change requests be completed within 21 days. I would not expect that governments (other than those that are ccTLD operators) would have much interest in this.
However, were there to be major review of these functions, such as that which the NTIA initiated in 2011 with its NOI, or to change the operator, then I would expect that the responsibility for conducting such a review would not fall on the ‘oversight council’
alone and that in whatever mechanism that would be established, there could be a role for governments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Guru Acharya<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> October-29-14 8:32 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Becky Burr<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; Lindeberg, Elise<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt">Becky. I agree with your initial assessment that the "oversight council" would focus on "technical
and operational issues" (as opposed to policy issues); and therefore GAC participation in the council will not be required even though GAC participation at an equal footing will not be inconsistent with the multi-stakeholder model. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt">However, I think GAC participation in the council might be essential in the scenario where the
oversight council decides to change the IANA operator in the future. If the council decides to contract a different operator (different from ICANN) in the future, would it not lead to various policy issues such as jurisdiction of the new IANA operator, financing
of the new IANA operator etc - where the insight of the GAC may be beneficial?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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that the “oversight counsel” would focus on technical and operational issues as opposed to policy issues ... But policy for IANA would remain in existing ICANN processes. Could you help me understand which technical/operational IANA services might raise “public
interest” concerns? I agree with you that having some GAC reps on a Oversight Counsel would not be inconsistent with the Strickling view, but I am curious about why GAC might want to participate in that kind of counsel. </span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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