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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If we are not careful, we are going to overcomplicate a process that is working very well. We need to ensure that there is true accountability but whatever
we do must not slow down the delivery of IANA services.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org [mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fouad Bajwa<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Burr, Becky<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org; Lindeberg, Elise<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">First I am not in favour of the wording Oversight Council or any such attempts of councils and new orgs etc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the IANA sense of things, I'd stick with an ad-hoc committee that would be put together with representation beyond a registry controlled group. This committee can be well equipped to deal with SLA and contractual agreements etc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Such a committee must be established on the basis of a multistakeholder representation that is renewed each year in an open and transparent manner where openess, diversity, inclusiveness and the user perspective is well represented.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Whoever says this is impractical may be over looking the fact that there is similarity with IGF MAG and various ICANN AC/OC selection processes though not optimal but indeed adoptable with certain improvements.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Making IANA prone to new councils or orgs etc is impractical. IANA can itself exist independently with an Advisory or Management committee with rotating yearly membership but contractual staffing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Wednesday, 29 October 2014, Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I’d envisioned the “Oversight Council” to be elected by registries (ccs and gs) organized in some fashion outside of the ICANN umbrella – so the IANA Oversight
Inc. or other association we were talking about the other day. It seems to me that the duties and authority of the Council would be determined by the membership of the organization (I.e., the registries) – so these questions would be resolved as part of structuring
Oversight, Inc. Let’s not create yet another separate mechanism. Instead, figure out a way for the views of all stakeholders with respect to major decisions can be collected by Oversight, Inc. and taken into account in the process of developing major proposals.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Guru Acharya <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gurcharya@gmail.com');" target="_blank">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Allan MacGillivray <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','allan.macgillivray@cira.ca');" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Becky Burr <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','becky.burr@neustar.biz');" target="_blank">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, "<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>>,
"Lindeberg, Elise" <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','elise.lindeberg@npt.no');" target="_blank">elise.lindeberg@npt.no</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Postulates emerging from Allan's remarks:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The Oversight Council will monitor compliance with day to day technical SLA type requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Even though the final contracting authority of changing the IANA operator will rest with the Oversight Council:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1) There will be a "separate mechanism" for recommending any major decision to the Oversight Council, including change of IANA operator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">2) The Oversight Council will be bound to accept/implement the decision of the "separate mechanism". <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">3) That "separate mechanism" will necessarily involve the views of the GAC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">4) That "separate mechanism" will be at an arms length from ICANN so that the ICANN board can not interfere since ICANN is the present IANA operator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">How do we intend to codify these characteristics of the "separate mechanism" so that the GAC can be assured that they will be consulted in case of change of the
IANA operator? Maybe as part of a MOU between the Oversight Council and GAC+ALAC+GNSO+CCSNO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Allan MacGillivray <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','allan.macgillivray@cira.ca');" target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black">I see the “oversight council” as being a body that deals with IANA compliance with day-to-day SLA-type responsibilities e.g. the current performance
metric that 80% of root zone file and WHOIS database change requests be completed within 21 days. I would not expect that governments (other than those that are ccTLD operators) would have much interest in this. However, were there to be major review of these
functions, such as that which the NTIA initiated in 2011 with its NOI, or to change the operator, then I would expect that the responsibility for conducting such a review would not fall on the ‘oversight council’ alone and that in whatever mechanism that would
be established, there could be a role for governments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Guru Acharya<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-29-14 8:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Becky Burr<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');" target="_blank">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; Lindeberg, Elise<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities</span><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black">Becky. I agree with your initial assessment that the "oversight council" would focus on "technical and operational issues" (as opposed to
policy issues); and therefore GAC participation in the council will not be required even though GAC participation at an equal footing will not be inconsistent with the multi-stakeholder model. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black">However, I think GAC participation in the council might be essential in the scenario where the oversight council decides to change the IANA
operator in the future. If the council decides to contract a different operator (different from ICANN) in the future, would it not lead to various policy issues such as jurisdiction of the new IANA operator, financing of the new IANA operator etc - where the
insight of the GAC may be beneficial?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black">Therefore I think GAC should be a part of the oversight council.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black">On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Burr, Becky <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Becky.Burr@neustar.biz');" target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>>
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technical and operational issues as opposed to policy issues ... But policy for IANA would remain in existing ICANN processes. Could you help me understand which technical/operational IANA services might raise “public interest” concerns? I agree with you
that having some GAC reps on a Oversight Counsel would not be inconsistent with the Strickling view, but I am curious about why GAC might want to participate in that kind of counsel. </span><span lang="EN-CA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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