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<div class="">IANA is a service provider. If you hire a contractor to build a house, it is the contractor’s job to make sure that the plumber and the electrician do their work properly. If your house burns down because the wiring is faulty, you are going to look to
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<div class="">I fully support multi-stakeholder policy development. Multi-stakeholder oversight of the electrician doesn’t make sense to me.</div>
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<div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">J. Beckwith Burr<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);" class="">Neustar, Inc. /</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> Deputy
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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span>Fouad Bajwa <<a href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com" class="">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 11:42 AM<br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span>Becky Burr <<a href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz" class="">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>><br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span>Guru Acharya <<a href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com" class="">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>>, Allan MacGillivray <<a href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca" class="">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>>, "<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" class="">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the other two communities<br class="">
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<div class="">First I am not in favour of the wording Oversight Council or any such attempts of councils and new orgs etc.
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<div class="">In the IANA sense of things, I'd stick with an ad-hoc committee that would be put together with representation beyond a registry controlled group. This committee can be well equipped to deal with SLA and contractual agreements etc.
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<div class="">Such a committee must be established on the basis of a multistakeholder representation that is renewed each year in an open and transparent manner where openess, diversity, inclusiveness and the user perspective is well represented.</div>
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<div class="">Whoever says this is impractical may be over looking the fact that there is similarity with IGF MAG and various ICANN AC/OC selection processes though not optimal but indeed adoptable with certain improvements.</div>
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<div class="">Making IANA prone to new councils or orgs etc is impractical. IANA can itself exist independently with an Advisory or Management committee with rotating yearly membership but contractual staffing.<span class=""></span></div>
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On Wednesday, 29 October 2014, Burr, Becky <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz" class="">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div class="">I’d envisioned the “Oversight Council” to be elected by registries (ccs and gs) organized in some fashion outside of the ICANN umbrella – so the IANA Oversight Inc. or other association we were talking about the other day. It seems to me that the duties
and authority of the Council would be determined by the membership of the organization (I.e., the registries) – so these questions would be resolved as part of structuring Oversight, Inc. Let’s not create yet another separate mechanism. Instead, figure out
a way for the views of all stakeholders with respect to major decisions can be collected by Oversight, Inc. and taken into account in the process of developing major proposals. </div>
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<div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">J. Beckwith Burr<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);" class="">Neustar, Inc. /</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> Deputy General
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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span>Guru Acharya <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gurcharya@gmail.com');" target="_blank" class="">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span>Wednesday, October 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM<br class="">
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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc: </span>Becky Burr <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','becky.burr@neustar.biz');" target="_blank" class="">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>, "<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship@icann.org');" target="_blank" class="">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
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<div class="">The Oversight Council will monitor compliance with day to day technical SLA type requirements.<br class="">
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<div class="">1) There will be a "separate mechanism" for recommending any major decision to the Oversight Council, including change of IANA operator</div>
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<div class="">2) The Oversight Council will be bound to accept/implement the decision of the "separate mechanism". </div>
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<div class="">3) That "separate mechanism" will necessarily involve the views of the GAC.</div>
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<div class="">4) That "separate mechanism" will be at an arms length from ICANN so that the ICANN board can not interfere since ICANN is the present IANA operator.</div>
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<div class="">How do we intend to codify these characteristics of the "separate mechanism" so that the GAC can be assured that they will be consulted in case of change of the IANA operator? Maybe as part of a MOU between the Oversight Council and GAC+ALAC+GNSO+CCSNO?</div>
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<div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">I see the “oversight council” as being a body that deals with IANA compliance with day-to-day SLA-type responsibilities e.g. the current performance metric that 80% of root zone file and WHOIS database change requests be completed within
21 days. I would not expect that governments (other than those that are ccTLD operators) would have much interest in this. However, were there to be major review of these functions, such as that which the NTIA initiated in 2011 with its NOI, or to change
the operator, then I would expect that the responsibility for conducting such a review would not fall on the ‘oversight council’ alone and that in whatever mechanism that would be established, there could be a role for governments.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org');" target="_blank" class="">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
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<div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">Becky. I agree with your initial assessment that the "oversight council" would focus on "technical and operational issues" (as opposed to policy issues); and therefore GAC participation in the council will not be required even though GAC
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<div class=""><div class="MsoNormal">However, I think GAC participation in the council might be essential in the scenario where the oversight council decides to change the IANA operator in the future. If the council decides to contract a different operator (different from
ICANN) in the future, would it not lead to various policy issues such as jurisdiction of the new IANA operator, financing of the new IANA operator etc - where the insight of the GAC may be beneficial?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div>
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policy for IANA would remain in existing ICANN processes. Could you help me understand which technical/operational IANA services might raise “public interest” concerns? I agree with you that having some GAC reps on a Oversight Counsel would not be inconsistent
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