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hi all <br>
In .nz I have direct experience of structures developed for handoff
oversight of an SLA negotiated with a single shared registry
service. The oversight function is by a small board of directors
(which until recently I chaired) on which no registries or
registrars are represented. Instead, a small group of persons with
the skills needed to oversee the function in the public interest do
so - there are no government persons . It used to be called the .nz
Oversight Committee, but is now the Domain Name Commission Limited
(a charitable public interest company). There is a separate
registrar advisory committee. of course, it is a small and discrete
example, but it works and works well. <br>
My point, is that an oversight committee can operate to ensure day
to day oversight of a technical SLA. To do so, it's important to
focus on the skills the oversight function needs, not simply the
stakeholders it can represent or the clients it might serve. <br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Joy Liddicoat<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/10/2014 6:16 a.m., Burr, Becky
wrote:<br>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Olivier,</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 16px;">Thanks for this input. I’d
like to take a step back so that we are all on the same
page. I hope everyone with take the time to review this
post. I think we are making this work unnecessarily
complicated.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size: 16px;">Under
the straw man I’ve suggested the “Council” or “Body” or
whatever it is called is responsible for negotiating and
interacting with IANA on technical issues. As defined by
the IANA functions contract, IANA’s naming-related tasks
include the following:</span></div>
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only at the direction of the ICANN Board. It is
responsible for documenting that the action was
consistent with established ICANN policy, but has no
role in formulating that policy.</span></span></span></li>
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</span>Key<span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;"> </span><span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">and</span><span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">use</span><span
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</span>for<span style="letter-spacing: -0.25pt;"> </span><span
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</span>the<span style="letter-spacing: -0.25pt;"> </span>Root<span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">Keyset.
Again, DNSSEC policy is set by ICANN, informed by
all stakeholders, the SSAC, etc. IANA simply
administers the ICANN policy.</span></span></li>
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">Service</span><span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">Complaint</span><span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">Resolution</span><span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">Process</span><span
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</span>--</b><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;">The</span><span
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
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style="text-indent: -0.25in; letter-spacing: -0.2pt;">
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letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">with</span><span
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;">NTIA</span><span
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;">timely</span><span
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style="text-indent: -0.25in; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;">
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letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">includes</span><span
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;">a</span><span
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
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</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
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style="text-indent: -0.25in; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;">
</span><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;
letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">resolution. This relates to
complaints about IANA doing its technical job in a
timely and competent fashion, not policy, which
remains with ICANN.</span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: 16px;"><b style="text-indent:
-0.25in;"><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Perform</span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.35pt">
</span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Administrative</span><span
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</span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Functions</span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.35pt">
</span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Associated</span><span
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</span>With<span style="letter-spacing:-.3pt"> </span><span
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style="letter-spacing:-.3pt">
</span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Zone</span><span
style="letter-spacing:-.3pt">
</span><span style="letter-spacing:-.05pt">Management.
F</span></b><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">acilitate</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;">
</span>and<span style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">coordinate</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">the</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">root</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;">
</span>zone<span style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">of</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">the</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">domain</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">name</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">system,</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;">
</span>and<span style="letter-spacing: 3.75pt;"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">maintain</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.25pt;">
</span>24<span style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;"> </span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">hour-a-day/7</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">days-a-week</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.2pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">operational</span><span
style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;">
</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">coverage.</span></span></li>
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<div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal;
font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size:
16px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div style="text-indent: -24px; "><span style="font-size:
16px;">I would agree with you that a conflict of interest
could emerge if IANA was developing policies for the
registries, but that is not what’s being proposed. </span><font
color="#ff0000"><b><span style="font-size: 16px;">Rather,
all policy work would remain with ICANN subject to
multi-stakeholder processes – just as it is now</span></b><span
style="font-size: 16px;">.</span></font><span
style="font-size: 16px;"> </span><span
style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span style="font-size:
16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">What conflict of
interest arises in this situation? Registries will be
in the best position to know whether or not IANA is
processing name server changes in a timely fashion.
Registries are harmed if it takes forever to do that.
To the limited extent this kind of thing might impact
end users, registries have all of the necessary
incentives to get it fixed. In the early years of
ICANN, when IANA was performing very poorly, registries
were unhappy, but most of the rest of the ICANN
community was not impacted in any way. Today, the ICANN
board - NOT IANA - promises stakeholders that IANA will
do its work in accordance with ICANN policy. If it
doesn't, </span><span style="font-size: 16px;">I</span><span
style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;"> am
going to look to the ICANN Board and not the IANA staff
for redress. </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 16px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 16px;">I don’t see a conflict of
interest in registries performing an oversight role with
respect to IANA’s purely technical and operational
functions. Remember, the IANA function contract specifies
that IANA’s role is</span><span style="text-indent:
-0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing:
-0.05pt;"> technical and operational, </span><i
style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;
font-weight: bold;">not policy development. </i><span
style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">If
IANA does something that is inconsistent with ICANN
policy, </span><span style="font-size: 16px;">I</span><span
style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;"> want
the ICANN Board to be accountable. </span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 16px;"><span style="text-indent:
-0.25in; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;"><br>
</span></span></div>
<div><span style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span
style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">Again,
to be clear, </span><span style="font-size: 16px;">I</span><span
style="font-size: 16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;"> am
not unalterably opposed to having other parts of the
community participate, but </span><span
style="font-size: 16px;">I</span><span style="font-size:
16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;"> don</span><span
style="font-size: 16px;">’</span><span style="font-size:
16px; letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">t understand why they
would want to. </span></span><span style="font-size:
16px;"> </span></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Olivier MJ
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href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday,
October 29, 2014 at 11:50 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs the
other two communities<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Hello all,<br>
<br>
irrespective of whether an "Oversight Council" is a
desirable thing or not (I have not yet made up my mind about
this, only having very basic information about it), I see a
serious conflict of Interest where only the directly
affected parties oversee operations that concern them
directly. <br>
There was much discussion about the GAC having seats.
Although I have not asked them, I am pretty much sure that
end users, as affected parties, would need a number of seats
too.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/10/2014 14:33, Burr,
Becky wrote:<br>
</div>
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cite="mid:D0767127.25B1A%25becky.burr@neustar.biz"
type="cite">
<div>
<div>I’d envisioned the “Oversight Council” to be
elected by registries (ccs and gs) organized in some
fashion outside of the ICANN umbrella – so the IANA
Oversight Inc. or other association we were talking
about the other day. It seems to me that the duties
and authority of the Council would be determined by
the membership of the organization (I.e., the
registries) – so these questions would be resolved as
part of structuring Oversight, Inc. Let’s not create
yet another separate mechanism. Instead, figure out a
way for the views of all stakeholders with respect to
major decisions can be collected by Oversight, Inc.
and taken into account in the process of developing
major proposals. </div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Guru
Acharya <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gurcharya@gmail.com">gurcharya@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday,
October 29, 2014 at 9:35 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Allan
MacGillivray <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Becky Burr
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:becky.burr@neustar.biz">becky.burr@neustar.biz</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>>,
"Lindeberg, Elise" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:elise.lindeberg@npt.no">elise.lindeberg@npt.no</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
[CWG-Stewardship] [IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community
vs the other two communities<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>Postulates emerging from Allan's remarks:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Oversight Council will monitor compliance
with day to day technical SLA type requirements.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Even though the final contracting authority
of changing the IANA operator will rest with the
Oversight Council:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1) There will be a "separate mechanism" for
recommending any major decision to the Oversight
Council, including change of IANA operator</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2) The Oversight Council will be bound to
accept/implement the decision of the "separate
mechanism". </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3) That "separate mechanism" will necessarily
involve the views of the GAC.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>4) That "separate mechanism" will be at an
arms length from ICANN so that the ICANN board
can not interfere since ICANN is the present
IANA operator.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>How do we intend to codify these
characteristics of the "separate mechanism" so
that the GAC can be assured that they will be
consulted in case of change of the IANA
operator? Maybe as part of a MOU between the
Oversight Council and GAC+ALAC+GNSO+CCSNO?</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at
6:32 PM, Allan MacGillivray <span dir="ltr">
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:allan.macgillivray@cira.ca"
target="_blank">allan.macgillivray@cira.ca</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I see the “oversight
council” as being a body that deals with
IANA compliance with day-to-day SLA-type
responsibilities e.g. the current
performance metric that 80% of root zone
file and WHOIS database change requests
be completed within 21 days. I would
not expect that governments (other than
those that are ccTLD operators) would
have much interest in this. However,
were there to be major review of these
functions, such as that which the NTIA
initiated in 2011 with its NOI, or to
change the operator, then I would expect
that the responsibility for conducting
such a review would not fall on the
‘oversight council’ alone and that in
whatever mechanism that would be
established, there could be a role for
governments.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma, sans-serif;" lang="EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org"
target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Guru Acharya<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October-29-14 8:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Becky Burr<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>;
Lindeberg, Elise<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship]
[IANA-issues] Fwd: Names Community vs
the other two communities</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Becky. I agree
with your initial assessment that
the "oversight council" would
focus on "technical and
operational issues" (as opposed to
policy issues); and therefore GAC
participation in the council will
not be required even though GAC
participation at an equal footing
will not be inconsistent with the
multi-stakeholder model. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">However, I
think GAC participation in the
council might be essential in
the scenario where the oversight
council decides to change the
IANA operator in the future. If
the council decides to contract
a different operator (different
from ICANN) in the future, would
it not lead to various policy
issues such as jurisdiction of
the new IANA operator, financing
of the new IANA operator etc -
where the insight of the GAC may
be beneficial?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Therefore I
think GAC should be a part of
the oversight council.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Guru</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue,
Oct 28, 2014 at 8:47 PM,
Burr, Becky <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz"
target="_blank">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;
color: black;">Thanks
Elise, very
helpful. I was
thinking that the
“oversight counsel”
would focus on
technical and
operational issues
as opposed to policy
issues ... But
policy for IANA
would remain in
existing ICANN
processes. Could
you help me
understand which
technical/operational
IANA services might
raise “public
interest” concerns?
I agree with you
that having some GAC
reps on a Oversight
Counsel would not be
inconsistent with
the Strickling view,
but I am curious
about why GAC might
want to participate
in that kind of
counsel. </span></p>
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