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    Dear Greg,<br>
    <br>
    for the record, my understanding was like Alan's.<br>
    There was specific mention of a "Committee". The "Service Level
    Agreement" could be part of a MoU which does not need legal entities
    like a formal contract.<br>
    <br>
    Kind regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/12/2014 07:35, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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              <div>Alan:<br>
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                Strawman 1 was not an "internal to ICANN" proposal.  The
                part that you quote refers to the IANA Functions
                Operator remaining ICANN.  That does not make it an
                internal to ICANN approach.  The current proposal also
                leaves ICANN as the IANA Functions Operator.  By that
                measure, the current proposal is just as much "internal
                to ICANN."<br>
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              An "internal to ICANN" approach would be one where there
              was no external entity (legal or otherwise involved) and
              oversight, accountability and all of the other roles
              currently performed by NTIA are performed by bodies
              internal to ICANN.<br>
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            You go on to say that there was "clearly no other entity
            holding the contract."  This is incorrect.  I draw your
            attention to the section "Documentation to Replace NTIA
            Contract," which reads:<br>
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            <font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><u><span
                    style="line-height:115%">Service
                    Level Agreement</span></u><span
                  style="line-height:115%">.<span>  </span>The OPRC and
                  ICANN will enter into a Service
                  Level Agreement for the performance of the technical
                  and administrative IANA
                  functions.<span>  </span>The SLA would run for an
                  initial term of three years and would be renewed upon
                  the agreement of the OPRC
                  and the IANA Functions Operator.</span></span></font><br>
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          A "Service Level Agreement" is a form of contract -- so there
          is clearly a contract.  And it states that the "OPRC and ICANN
          will enter into" this contact.  So there is clearly an "other
          entity" holding the contract.<br>
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        You also state that the OPRC is an "internal committee." This is
        also incorrect.  The section on legal status of OPRC states "<font><span
            style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><u><span
                style="line-height:115%">Legal
                Status</span></u><span style="line-height:115%">.<span> 
              </span>The OPRC will be a committee rather than a
              separate incorporated entity.<span>  </span>[The
              committee may be considered an “unincorporated
              association,” and will be
              domiciled in [California or the U.S. or Switzerland or
              some other place] to the
              extent that the committee has a legal identity.]." 
              Nowhere does this state or even imply that the OPRC is an
              ICANN Committee.  Indeed the fact that there is a
              discussion of domicile and that OPRC will enter into an
              agreement with ICANN can only lead to the conclusion that
              the OPRC is external ICANN.</span></span></font>
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            <div>I stand by my earlier statement -- <span class="">I
                don't think an
                "internal to ICANN" proposal was ever put on the table
                within
                the group prior to Frankfurt in any kind of tangible,
                concrete
                fashion.<br>
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            <div><span class="">Greg<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:42 PM,
            Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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                I have to disagree. <br>
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                <blockquote type="cite"><font color="#0000FF"><b>
                      Strawman Proposal 1</b></font><br>
                  <br>
                  <b>4 Status of IANA Functions Operator<br>
                  </b><br>
                  a <u>Division of ICANN</u>.  The IANA Functions
                  Operator will remain
                  a division of ICANN.<br>
                  <br>
                  b <u>Enhanced Separability</u>.  ICANN will maintain
                  the current
                  separation between ICANN and IANA, and will make the
                  IANA Functions
                  Operator more easily separable from ICANN, if
                  separation becomes
                  necessary at some future time.</blockquote>
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                There was a "Review Committee" but clearly no other
                entity
                holding the contract. Strawman 1 did, nonsensically,
                posit that the
                internal committee could initiate an RFP. for a "new"
                operator,
                but this too confirmed the the "old" operator was
                ICANN.<br>
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                The references to an oversight "mechanism" also alluded
                to
                something other than an external contract-holding
                entity.<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
                    <br>
                    Alan</font></span><span class=""><br>
                  <br>
                  At 30/11/2014 01:50 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">Frankly, I don't think an
                    "internal to ICANN" proposal was ever put on the
                    table within
                    the group prior to Frankfurt in any kind of
                    tangible, concrete
                    fashion.</blockquote>
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