<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Alan:<br><br>Strawman 1 was not an "internal to ICANN" proposal. The part that you quote refers to the IANA Functions Operator remaining ICANN. That does not make it an internal to ICANN approach. The current proposal also leaves ICANN as the IANA Functions Operator. By that measure, the current proposal is just as much "internal to ICANN."<br><br></div>An "internal to ICANN" approach would be one where there was no external entity (legal or otherwise involved) and oversight, accountability and all of the other roles currently performed by NTIA are performed by bodies internal to ICANN.<br><br></div>You go on to say that there was "clearly no other entity holding the contract." This is incorrect. I draw your attention to the section "Documentation to Replace NTIA Contract," which reads:<br><br><font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><u><span style="line-height:115%">Service
Level Agreement</span></u><span style="line-height:115%">.<span> </span>The OPRC and ICANN will enter into a Service
Level Agreement for the performance of the technical and administrative IANA
functions.<span> </span>The SLA would run for an
initial term of three years and would be renewed upon the agreement of the OPRC
and the IANA Functions Operator.</span></span></font><br><br></div>A "Service Level Agreement" is a form of contract -- so there is clearly a contract. And it states that the "OPRC and ICANN will enter into" this contact. So there is clearly an "other entity" holding the contract.<br><br></div>You also state that the OPRC is an "internal committee." This is also incorrect. The section on legal status of OPRC states "<font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><u><span style="line-height:115%">Legal
Status</span></u><span style="line-height:115%">.<span> </span>The OPRC will be a committee rather than a
separate incorporated entity.<span> </span>[The
committee may be considered an “unincorporated association,” and will be
domiciled in [California or the U.S. or Switzerland or some other place] to the
extent that the committee has a legal identity.]." Nowhere does this state or even imply that the OPRC is an ICANN Committee. Indeed the fact that there is a discussion of domicile and that OPRC will enter into an agreement with ICANN can only lead to the conclusion that the OPRC is external ICANN.</span></span></font><div><div><div><br></div><div>I stand by my earlier statement -- <span class="">I don't think an
"internal to ICANN" proposal was ever put on the table within
the group prior to Frankfurt in any kind of tangible, concrete
fashion.<br><br></span></div><div><span class="">Greg<br></span></div><div><span class=""><br><br></span></div><div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I have to disagree. <br><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><font color="#0000FF"><b>
Strawman Proposal 1</b></font><br><br>
<b>4 Status of IANA Functions Operator<br>
</b><br>
a <u>Division of ICANN</u>. The IANA Functions Operator will remain
a division of ICANN.<br><br>
b <u>Enhanced Separability</u>. ICANN will maintain the current
separation between ICANN and IANA, and will make the IANA Functions
Operator more easily separable from ICANN, if separation becomes
necessary at some future time.</blockquote><br>
There was a "Review Committee" but clearly no other entity
holding the contract. Strawman 1 did, nonsensically, posit that the
internal committee could initiate an RFP. for a "new" operator,
but this too confirmed the the "old" operator was
ICANN.<br><br>
The references to an oversight "mechanism" also alluded to
something other than an external contract-holding entity.<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br><br>
Alan</font></span><span class=""><br><br>
At 30/11/2014 01:50 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Frankly, I don't think an
"internal to ICANN" proposal was ever put on the table within
the group prior to Frankfurt in any kind of tangible, concrete
fashion.</blockquote></span></div>
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