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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02-Dec-14 07:16, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I also don't understand the view that
ICANN community and corporate are separate. </blockquote>
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The ICANN Board and Staff are independent of the Community and can
overrule the community either by a vote of the Board, or by
calling an action 'implementation' that does not require community
agreement. I do not understand how anyone can see ICANN
community and ICANN Corporate as being the same entity, though
there are points of contact. There is a strict division between
the two, especially since the Board, given its understanding of
the its fiduciary responsibility sees itself as NOT representing
the community. Adn the staff is governed by a CEO that is not
subject, in any way, to community appproval in hiring or contract
renewal. The Community has NO influence over ICANN Staff.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">What does that mean? and how is ICANN
community different from a typical RIR community. </blockquote>
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In the RIRs there is no body with a vote that can overrule the
will of the community in policy making.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Please when you think of who pays, think
of it from the customer perspective, think of participation,
think of the resources that's already been expended in this
current ICG process.</blockquote>
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How does the contractor paying hurt the consumers?<br>
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cite="mid:CAD_dc6ipkRQ0TZrmdZ2AXJFMVNYUDMT3-x6jaEF0ekyfznHVJw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">On a lighter note, it's interesting that we will want
to put all these structure just because of a "what if". It's also
interesting that we are not thinking of the possibility of the
young MRT being subject to capture.</blockquote>
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I think people are beginning to see the ghost of possible capture
everywhere and it is becoming another paralyzing function that is
being used much the way an overblown fear of gaming is being used,
as a counter to any idea.<br>
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I persist in seeing the only real possibility of capture in a
massively multistakeholder body is that the community process can be
captured by ICANN corporate decisions made that disregard the
community's consensus, and that is what we need to protect against.<br>
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avri<br>
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