<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div><div><div>+1 here.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri">Regards,</font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="rgb(0, 0, 0)"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Vika</span></font></font></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> "<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>" <<a href="mailto:Becky.Burr@neustar.biz">Becky.Burr@neustar.biz</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Thursday 04 December 2014 12:40 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Erick Iriarte <<a href="mailto:eiriarte@iriartelaw.com">eiriarte@iriartelaw.com</a>>, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> CWG Stewardship <<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div><div><div>The ccNSO is the source of delegation/revocation policy, based on multistakeholder processes, consensus, etc. That is very different from making a judgment in any particular case whether the policy is being applied properly. There are also complicated
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Dear Milton
<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">almost is important to understand what is the basis of your comment, but is your decision share with us your opinion.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yours,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Erick</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">El 2/12/2014, a las 12:00, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" class="">mueller@syr.edu</a>> escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Desiree:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">So, according to you, the lawyer (counsel) who authorizes delegations/redelegations would be provided by
the ccNSO? Or from some other “group of ccTLDs”? what if the ccNSO lawyer had one opinion and the lawyer provided by another group had a different opinion? Not criticizing, just trying to understand what is being proposed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">Erick:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">My opinion of the legal status of a ccTLD is not relevant to answering those questions. I repeat: I am
not criticizing the proposal, I am just trying to understand what is being proposed.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class=""> </span></font></div><div style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><font size="2" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class="">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Desiree
Miloshevic [<a href="mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:dmiloshevic@afilias.info</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:51 AM<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Milton L Mueller<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CWG Stewardship<br class=""><b class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [CWG-Stewardship] authorization function for ccTLDs<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Milton<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Before you respond to Erick - I'll just say add that, for example, the ccNSO FOIWG worked on interpretation of RFC 1591 and other IANA related policy guidelines.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__ccnso.icann.org_workinggroups_foi-2Dfinal-2D07oct14-2Den.pdf&d=AwMF-g&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=zck_KKrcnUji57SgytbIp1pTarNrRaI-007tLxDDbv8&s=11OyJb_p43oaQCyz7z_kxCYM3eereRRP4QbpFHQRdHE&e=" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://ccnso.icann.org/workinggroups/foi-final-07oct14-en.pdf</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">My understanding is that bodies like the ccNSO or group of ccTLDs are there to develop policies regarding the delegation and redelegation of ccTLDs.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">It's my personal view that it could potentially form such a council in future and give opinions. (independent of ICANN board).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Desiree<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">--<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""> </span></font></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">On 2 Dec 2014, at 15:30, Erick Iriarte <<a href="mailto:eiriarte@iriartelaw.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">eiriarte@iriartelaw.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Milton<br class="">
to understand better your message and position: for you exactly what is the legal status of a cctld ?<br class="">
Erick<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></font></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">El 2/12/2014, a las 10:16, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mueller@syr.edu</a>> escribió:<br class=""><br class="">
I have some questions regarding this:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">
"The CWG is considering replacing the authorization role, at least with regard to ccTLDs, with a written opinion from counsel (independent of ICANN) that each delegation and re-delegation request meets the policy requirements cited in the publicly posted reports."<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">
Where would this counsel come from?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
Whose counsel is it if it is independent of ICANN and ICANN is supplying the IANA service?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
Since most of the policy requirements related to ccTLD delegation/redelegation are not laws, but things like RFC 1591, on what basis is the counsel's opinion made? Precedent?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">
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