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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Greg,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoCommentText"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I agree with your second comment, [GS4]: “</span><span lang="EN-GB">In a sense, the same thing could be said for each Principle, since we begin by stating that the proposal(s)
can be tested against the principles and criteria before being sent to the ICG.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">” But I identified several principles that I think require a more extensive effort.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoCommentText"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Comment [GS23] says: “</span><span lang="EN-GB">I don’t think this is technically true. There is nothing in the IANA contract that says this. Maybe this is being confused
with the “separation from policy” concept. To be fair, the <b>structure</b> of the contract (i.e., with limited duration) gives the NTIA the opportunity to separate the IANA functions from the current operator, but it is not a
<b>requirement</b> of the contract.</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">” I think you are correct here but what I was suggesting is that we evaluate whether separability of the IANA functions from ICANN would be possible under the
ICANN-only scenario.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoCommentText"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Regarding your last comment, [GS27], do I understand you to say that the CSC should be multistakeholder? If so, why do you think that? And what would that mean?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoCommentText"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 08, 2014 1:55 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Guerra<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My edits and comments are attached.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Robert Guerra <<a href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" target="_blank">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">concur with Milton and Chuck on this one.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Robert<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 7, 2014, at 9:24 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes, I agree. But the principle as formulated implies that every entity involved in management must be MS, which I think is excessive.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Gomes, Chuck [<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:cgomes@verisign.com</span></a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 7, 2014 5:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Milton L Mueller; Lise Fuhr; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Milton L Mueller [<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mailto:mueller@syr.edu</span></a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 07, 2014 5:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; Lise Fuhr; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</span></a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]</span></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lise Fuhr; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gomes, Chuck <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 07, 2014 4:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Lise Fuhr'; <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Principles</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</span></a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">[mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org]</span></a> <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lise Fuhr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 05, 2014 8:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] Principles</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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outstanding issues, that are identified in the comments. We welcome any inputs on either the comments or on the redline draft. The document will be finalized on the next call.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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