<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:24 PM, Milton L Mueller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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</span><div><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> So I will continue
to refer to any proposal that has no external contracting authority and relies entirely on ICANN bylaw modifications as an internal-to-ICANN solution. Because I value accuracy and clarity.
</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Please can you show me where it is written that we MUST create an external contracting authority? <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div style="border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div>
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</span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>and what is wrong about this Milton? i think calling it internal solution but not recognising that the solution intends to have strong accountability is concerning. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div style="border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One of the arguments that I think underpins this effort is the perceived vulnerability of any entirely new, unfunded and unstaffed architecture that would in many ways resemble the vulnerability of the early ICANN. <u></u><u></u></p>
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</span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I have trouble understanding this concern. ICANN entered an almost entirely uninstitutionalized environment in 1997, and was at the center of a huge dispute between
Network Solutions (which vastly exceeded ICANN in resources at the time), a rather weak and poor ISOC, and the Department of Commerce.</span> </p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div style="border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> Now we have a very well-solidified transnational policy network formed around ICANN, ICANN is accepted as the policy authority
for DNS, and there are much more well-defined relationships with IETF/IAB, registries, international organizations, user groups, and so on.</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br><div></div>Wow! now i understand your motive which seem to be that you indeed want to create another ICANN-like body perhaps for the fun of it otherwise i will like you to tell me what is the difference between the current multistakeholder community within ICANN and the one you will be proposing. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div style="border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> The biggest danger now is that ICANN itself might dominate or overwhelm any new entity and become locked in and unaccountable.
</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Sorry i am not sure i get your point, we recognise that accountability is not yet strong within ICANN and that is what we are trying to work on but you seem to be of the opinion that subjecting a already mature organisation (both in community and reach) to a new organisation that will be setup is the ONLY way that ensures ICANN's accountability. Perhaps you care to clarify the scenario of what new entity ICANN will dominate<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Regards<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><div style="border-width:medium medium medium 1.5pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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