Thank you, Avri. I feel your pain.<div><br></div><div>I expect to be on tomorrow&#39;s (tonight&#39;s) CCWG call....<br><br>On Monday, December 22, 2014, Avri Doria &lt;<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    Wince I took on the task, in the CCWG Accountability, of dealing
    with the communication between this CWG and that CCWG, I will bring
    this issue to that group.<br>
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    avri<br>
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    <div>On 22-Dec-14 13:02, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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      I think the timing of &quot;mid-January&quot; chosen by the CCWG to respond
      on areas of &quot;overlap&quot; is (or could be) rather unfortunate.  That
      is an indistinct timeframe.  If we could have their input prior to
      our &quot;high intensity work weekend&quot; that would be really useful.  On
      the other hand, if we don&#39;t have it until after our report goes
      out to the community, it will be essentially useless in this stage
      of our work, and a significant opportunity for real coordination
      will have been lost.  I encourage the chairs to continue this
      dialogue in order to maximize the value of the CCWG&#39;s response,
      even if it means putting some pressure on the CCWG to synchronize
      better with our timeline.
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      <div>Greg<span></span><br>
        <br>
        On Monday, December 22, 2014, Lise Fuhr &lt;<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,&#39;cvml&#39;,&#39;lise.fuhr@difo.dk&#39;);" target="_blank">lise.fuhr@difo.dk</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote">Dear All,<br>
          <br>
          Jonathan and I have received this email from the CCWG
          Co-Chairs, and we would like to share it with the group to
          keep you updated on the coordination with the Accountability
          CCWG.<br>
          <br>
          Happy holidays<br>
          Best regards,<br>
          <br>
          Jonathan and Lise<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          -----Original Message-----<br>
          From: Thomas Rickert<br>
          Sent: 19 December 2014 15:36<br>
          To: Lise Fuhr; Jonathan Robinson<br>
          Cc: Mathieu Weill; Marika Konings; Grace Abuhamad; Bart
          Boswinkel; Adam Peake; Berry Cobb<br>
          Subject: potential areas of overlap<br>
          <br>
          Dear Lise and Jonathan,<br>
          first of all, let us thank you for taking the time earlier
          today to hold another co-ordination call between the co-chairs
          of the CWG and CCWG. As an efficient liaison of our groups is
          key to our groups work’s success, we really do appreciate your
          commitment to having regular - usually weekly - calls.<br>
          <br>
          It was with great interest that we read the document you
          provided titled „Potential areas for Overlap between the CWG
          &amp; the CCWG“. We have shared this with our group and
          discussed your paper with the group during our last telephone
          conference. Rest assured that your input will be reviewed and
          responded to as a priority issue. We are also working on both
          identifying accountability issues and categorizing as to
          whether they belong to work stream 1, work stream 2 or both.
          Further, we do categorize items that need to be completed
          prior to the transition versus those that need to be committed
          to.<br>
          <br>
          However, we are cognizant that any preliminary assessment that
          we might come up with is subject to change because of<br>
          <br>
          - changes made to the proposal you published on Dec.1st, 2014<br>
          - changes made to your document on areas of overlap<br>
          - new proposals and<br>
          - changes due to other external and internal factors, such as
          evolving deliberations of our group.<br>
          <br>
          We are aiming at providing you with a preliminary response in
          the second half of January, but will update you on progress
          and interim results in the meantime. Our work is now split
          into 4 sub groups working in parallel with lively discussions
          on the mailing lists and weekly two hour calls, which we are
          continuing to have during the holiday season to advance the
          project as expediently as possible.<br>
          <br>
          Please let us know if you have any questions.<br>
          <br>
          Kind regards,<br>
          Mathieu Weill and Thomas Rickert<br>
          CCWG Co-Chairs<br>
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