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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You’re right, Greg. There are abstract elements to accountability that apply across domains. My point was not to
discourage anyone from reading the report but just to not confuse IANA and ICANN accountability.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Greg
Shatan [mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:15 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Milton L Mueller<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> cwg-stewardship@icann.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: [CCWG-Accountability] Prior work on Accountability structures in 2012<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think the report is actually quite instructive for the CWG. While the ASEP was examining current ICANN accountability structures, which largely cover "ICANN as policy
maker and enforcer," much of the substance of the report deal with improving aspects of those structures that are not unique to that subject matter. Rather, they are issues of general applicability to any accountability structure. As such, they highlight
a number of issues we would need to deal with, e.g., when fleshing out the IAP. As such, I would not discourage anyone in the CWG from looking at this report for what it's worth.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Greg<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Greg:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Appreciate your recommendation of the report, but that
report was focused on the accountability of ICANN as policy maker and enforcer – and as you have probably heard me say before, policy accountability and IANA functions accountability are two very different things. Let’s never get them blurred together or confused.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Greg Shatan<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, January 10, 2015 11:18 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org" target="_blank">
cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [CWG-Stewardship] Fwd: [CCWG-Accountability] Prior work on Accountability structures in 2012</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This may be of interest to our group as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Bruce Tonkin</span></b> <<a href="mailto:Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au" target="_blank">Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au</a>><br>
Date: Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 8:03 PM<br>
Subject: [CCWG-Accountability] Prior work on Accountability structures in 2012<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
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Hello All,<br>
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From the ATRT1 review, the Board created the Accountability Structures Expert panel (ASEP) to recommend improvements to the current accountability structures.<br>
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I have attached their final report from: <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/report-26oct12-en.pdf" target="_blank">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/report-26oct12-en.pdf</a> from October 2012.<br>
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It may be of some use to this group.<br>
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Some points I picked out from their recommendations:<br>
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The Four Es:<br>
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• Enhancing effectiveness of structures<br>
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• Efficiency in process<br>
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• Allowing expeditious resolution<br>
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• Enhancing community’s ease of access to accountability structures<br>
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“The Board must always act with objectivity and fairness in the best interests of ICANN, but in doing so take account of the legitimate needs, interests and expectations of stakeholders material to the issue being decided. Staff must act in same manner."<br>
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Create stability through building of precedent<br>
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Where possible, reduce burden and costs to those accessing structures<br>
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Accountability structures should not preclude any party from filing suit against ICANN in court of competent jurisdiction<br>
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Regards,<br>
Bruce<br>
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