<p dir="ltr">Thanks Chuck, <br>
I'll drop a note explaining further as soon as I get a moment. <br>
Jonathan</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 15 Jan 2015 19:45, "Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com">cgomes@verisign.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jonathan,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I do not understand the ‘poison pill’ point.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chuck<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'CWG IANA'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] Accountability measures required by CWG Proposal(s)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">All,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Note the reference that Fadi has very recently made to the possible use of an over-arching conditionality (in the CWG proposal) in the form of
a “poison pill” i.e. our (CWG) proposal being invalid unless certain key accountability conditions are met.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Jonathan Robinson
<a href="mailto:[mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info]" target="_blank">[mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info]</a>
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<b>Sent:</b> 15 January 2015 12:46<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Alan Greenberg'; 'CWG IANA'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CWG-Stewardship] Accountability measures required by CWG Proposal(s)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alan (and the CWG),<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">One question that strikes me which we will almost certainly be asked to clarify is; What is the problem/issue that you (we) are trying to solve
for in each case?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The purpose for establishing the motivation is that it may be that there is more than one remedy and that one remedy is more desirable than another
(for whatever reason including but not limited to legal advice).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Perhaps a table in the form of issue / proposed resolution 1 / proposed resolution 2?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jonathan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Alan Greenberg [<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 15 January 2015 06:12<br>
<b>To:</b> CWG IANA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] Accountability measures required by CWG Proposal(s)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">I believe that this is the minimalist list of accountability measures or accountability-related processes that would be required based on the two proposals currently under consideration.<br>
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I have explicitly not included the wider list of measures that the CCWG is considering for possible inclusion in its WS1, specifically those which the community would like to see and for which the IANA transition might provide additional impetus for the Board
to approve, but are not absolutely required to ensure that the IANA transition can occur. I recognize that this is a judgement call that not all might agree with.<br>
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During the last of the four weekend meetings, Chuck mentioned one additional issue, and referred to a chat exchange between him and Donna during the third meeting that listed several other potential accountability issues. Unfortunately, that chat transcript
was not preserved due to an error in saving it.<br>
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The list of measures for the Contract Co. model is based on the list that the Co-Chairs created in December, augmented by Chucks suggestion. I do not believe that the December list has been negated by any work done in the interim, but perhaps I have missed
something. I could not find a rationale for the inclusion of the first of the three items, but include it here so that the CWG could decide if it is based on a real need associated with the proposal or not. If included, I would suggest the CWG be more specific
as to under what conditions it would apply. Chuck's suggestion seems to conflict with the 2nd measure in that the 2nd measure is specified as being binding. I am also not sure if it could possibly be replaced by the more generalized IAP (once the request goes
to IANA).<br>
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The requirements for the internal-to-ICANN model are based on my discussions with a number of people over the last weeks.<br>
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</span><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:18.0pt">Contract Co. Model Requirements<br>
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</span></b><b><span lang="EN-GB">1. Independent Review of Board Actions<br>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-GB">Change the ICANN Bylaws to specify that under certain circumstances (to be defined) the determinations of an Independent Review of Board Actions Panel would be binding and not implemented at the Board's discretions.<br>
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<b>2. Independent certification for delegation and re-delegation requests<br>
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</b>This would be a replacement for the authorization function for all changes to the Root Zone or its WHOIS Database currently performed by the NTIA. The replacement mechanism would have gTLD requests for delegations and re-delegations authorized by an independent
third party and its decision on these matters would be binding on ICANN/IANA. <br>
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<b>3. Independent Appeals Panel<br>
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</b>An independent review panel must be set up to deal with contested changes to the Root Zone or its WHOIS Database. Although discussions are still ongoing as to the specifics of such a proposal, it is generally agreed that the decisions of such a panel would
be binding. There may also be a need for an injunction-like mechanism to defer the change in question during the appeal process.<br>
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<b>4. gTLD Delegation or Redelegation Appeal within ICANN prior to the change request going to IANA<br>
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</b>A Registry could appeal an ICANN decision to delegate or redelegate and gTLD, based on policy not being followed (or presumably contractual terms not being followed).<br>
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</span><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:18.0pt">Internal-To-ICANN Model Requirements<br>
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</span></b><span lang="EN-GB">This model will require all of the above measures plus the following:<br>
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<b>5. Control over ICANN Board decisions.<br>
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</b>The ability for ICANN Stakeholders, potentially augmented by other non-ICANN entities, to mandate or overrule, a particular Board decision, or to require that the implementation of such a decision be subject to consideration of an independent, binding review.
These measures might need to be augmented by advance notice of such decisions and allow the MS community to react. In the most restricted form, this ability might be restricted to decisions related to IANA, but in reality, it may not be practical to define
this scope limitation (ie how to recognize an IANA-related decision).<br>
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<b>6. Ability to Remove Directors<br>
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</b>The ability of the overall multi-stakeholder community to remove some or all of the Board Directors. In the case of a full Board removal, a mechanism would be required for appointing an Interim Board and then a replacement regular Board. In addition, ACs
and SOs could be given the right to recall their appointed Director(s).<br>
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