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+ 1 Chuck and echoing many of Milton's concerns.<br>
<br>
Some of the wording in the introductory section also gave me pause.
For example: <i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:
107%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:
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mso-ansi-language:EN-CA;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA"
lang="EN-CA">with
a section added on an “Internal-to-ICANN” solution <a
style="mso-comment-reference:
CS_1;mso-comment-date:20150202T0934">as a replacement f</a></span></i><i><span
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mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA;mso-fareast-language:
EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA" lang="EN-CA">or the “Contract Co.
option - </span></i><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:107%;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;mso-ansi-language:EN-CA;mso-fareast-language:
EN-US;mso-bidi-language:AR-SA" lang="EN-CA">I would have thought
this should read "additional/alternative option" not "a
replacement for the ContractCo option". Another example is
where it says </span><span
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is not enough support for the Contract Co. option at this time
to allow the CWG
to continue developing only this option." </i></span>
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members/participants of the CWG proposed adding additional
models/options which was welcomed. We need to be very careful in
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/2/2015 1:55 PM, Gomes, Chuck
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
agree with Milton that this document should be as neutral as
possible with regard to the various options and I thought it
was close to achieving that. In fact, an earlier version
included the pros and cons of each of the options and I
suggested those be removed so that community members could
make their own judgments without CWG influence. To address
Milton’s concern, I am now more inclined not to include the
results of the surveys but rather just provide links to the
results. Besides, we were very clear that the surveys were
not intended to be statistically significant so we should
avoid impressions that we are using the results as if they
were. I think they were very helpful in guiding our review
of public comments within the CWG, but we need to avoid not
reading too much from the results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In
my opinion, the main objective of the discussion document is
to generate productive feedback in Singapore that will
contribute to our efforts going forward. We all need legal
advice and a lot of more detail before we can make
conclusive value judgments on the way forward so I don’t
think we gain much by trying to assess which proposals
community members like best, but if we can get them to
identify any concerns they have about the options on the
table, I think that could be useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Milton L Mueller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 01, 2015 6:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a>; Lise Fuhr<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] CWG - Draft Report
for Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jonathan,
Lise<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
am sorry to say that I find this draft report to be slanted
to an outrageous degree. Its summary of the public comments
and the survey results seem to be distorted in ways that
lead the community to a particular view. This report will
have to change, and dramatically, before it is fit for
public release.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
first point you make in this report, which apparently was
drafted by ICANN staff, is “</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79">Overall
there was very strong support for the current IANA operator
(ICANN) and that the IANA functions should not be moved from
ICANN, or tendered for, at the onset of the transition.”
Taken out of context, this statement makes it seem as if
there is little support for separability. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">By
our count, more than 2/3 of the public comments supported
separability of the IANA functions, and separability was one
of the key principles adopted by the group at the outset.
Moreover, around 63% of the public comments supported the
basic idea of the Frankfurt proposal, i.e. to create some
kind of external authority to contract for those functions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Even
by Bernard’s method, 13 of the public comments opposed
Contract Co. and 18 supported it (a 58% ratio in favor of
Contract Co) while 24 allegedly made no comment (one of the
flaws of Bernard’s method of counting, but that is a minor
issue at this point).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79">The
report says that “There was no strong agreement amongst
survey respondents with the proposal to create Contract
Co.,” which is roughly true, but it doesn’t also say “There
was no strong agreement amongst survey respondents, indeed
there was strong opposition, to the idea of an internal
option.” What accounts for this bias?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4E79"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The
simple fact is that we are currently split between advocates
of an internal solution and an external solution. Neither
can claim consensus and one-sided references to “a majority”
(of 2 votes in a survey that included only 32 people) is not
helpful. The key survey questions on the basic issue are all
bimodal, with no clear tendency either way. I have no
problem with a clear statement to that effect, or even a
summary of what arguments people have made supporting or
opposing either option. I presume the purpose of this report
is to inform the community in Singapore of this fact in an
attempt to find proposals that can move the process forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A
prejudiced report is going to make that more difficult.
Furthermore, it is a huge mistake to frame this as a kind of
opinion poll at the Singapore meeting as to where people
stand now (especially when they are presented with a highly
distorted take on how current opinions break down). What we
need now now is not polling but deliberation and discussion
as to the merits and demerits of various structures, legal
advice on the feasibility of both internal and external
tracks, and exploration of any options that we haven’t
thought of yet.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
you want help modifying the report I’d be happy to provide
you with suggestions. Overall, it can be made a lot shorter
and a lot simpler.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Milton
L Mueller<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Laura
J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Syracuse
University School of Information Studies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/"><span
style="color:#0563C1">http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Internet
Governance Project<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://internetgovernance.org/"><span
style="color:#0563C1">http://internetgovernance.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in
0in 0in 4.0pt">
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<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org">mailto:cwg-stewardship-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 1, 2015 3:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Bernard Turcotte'; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CWG-Stewardship] CWG - Draft
Report for Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">To set expectations and remind one another of
the purpose of this Discussion Document and of this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">The overarching purpose is as described at
the outset of the document as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="CWGbody"><span lang="EN-CA">1. To inform the
community of the work undertaken and progress to date
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="CWGbody"><span lang="EN-CA">and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="CWGbody"><span lang="EN-CA">2. To seek
community input on key and intractable issues in order to
assist the CWG in its deliberations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">In order to achieve both 1 & 2 above, it
is imperative to get the document into circulation within
the community as soon as possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">With the publication of this draft to the
CWG, we aim to obtain the following from the you:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">A.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Input on areas of substantial concern with
the document as drafted<br>
<br>
and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">B.</span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D" lang="EN-GB">
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Input as to which questions should be added
to the document in order to best direct community input
with regard to purpose 2 above.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Accordingly, please can you provide any input
as soon as possible and, in any event, by 48 hours from
distribution of this document to the CWG i.e. 18h00 UTC on
03 February 2015.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Thank-you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Jonathan & Lise<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB">Co-chairs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Bernard Turcotte [</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 01 February 2015 17:41<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cwg-stewardship@icann.org"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">cwg-stewardship@icann.org</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CWG-Stewardship] CWG - Draft Report for
Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">All, please find
attached the draft report for the Singapore meeting
and the updated timeline.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Questions and
comments welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Jonathan and Lise
would also like input on questions which could be
added to this document which would provide useful
feedback for our work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Cheers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">B.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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